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Fair play to Cas tonight, they took it to us and wanted it more. They respected the ball more, ran harder, tackled harder and played the conditions better.

We looked a bit of a rabble but with all the changed over the past few weeks it's understandable. We'll be ok, we just need to ride through this period and get everyone fit.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "Can anyone offer a convincincing argument that we aren't a "one-man" team? Results when Sam doesn't play aren't good. We have excellent players in Lockers/Pat/Josh/Faz/H/MMac etc but take Sam out and we really struggle (Leeds away, Huddersfield away, Widnes away).

Obviously we could sign someone, but I don't see anyone good enough in SL apart from maybe Greg Eden (joke) or Hardaker (who I doubt we could get) and whilst there are about a dozen NRL fullbacks who we'd fancy, would any of them come over?

Moving Josh to full back may be the best solution because he has all of the attributes needed, but SW doesn't seem too keen to play him there. He must have his reasons, maybe Josh doesn't fancy it there (He was doing pretty well at Huddersfield until Gelling got injured forcing Josh to go back on the wing).

If Josh did go FB we'd need two wingers. It may just be easier to find wingers than a full back right now.

By the way, it always kills me when opposition fans say Wigan are a "one man team" - but he's crap anyway!!!!! (Go figure, as the yanks say)'"


Anthony Minichiello is rumoured to be coming on a one year plus one year option contract, which would sort the fullback spot out short term and give th likes of Tierney, Hampshire, Burgess, Fell etc time to progress.

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Charnley would be a grat running fullback and he'd be safe in defence but his link up play would be the major issue. If we continue to employee the tactics we use at present then we must have that 'extra halfback' at fullback who can score himself and make breaks but also create for others.

It's a tricky situation. It may be that we need to start varying the way we play a little.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Charnley would be a grat running fullback and he'd be safe in defence but his link up play would be the major issue. If we continue to employee the tactics we use at present then we must have that 'extra halfback' at fullback who can score himself and make breaks but also create for others.

It's a tricky situation. It may be that we need to start varying the way we play a little.'"

Agree totally. What people forget is that Sam makes as many as he scores, and there is no-one in Super League who comes near to combining those talents.

Varying the way we play makes more sense than trying to replace Sam like for like.

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I never said tomkins was crap ? Im just sick of people stating cas are a one man team and nothing is said about wigan. Which nrl player who is that good will come to superleague.if there in tomkins class they will stay over there and get more money.with the budget cas have to spend wins over leeds and wigan this season speaks volumes.we willnever have the money of other clubs but we do have passion and you will see a better team 2014 now powell is coach and not the mad aussie icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Anthony Minichiello is rumoured to be coming on a one year plus one year option contract, which would sort the fullback spot out short term and give th likes of Tierney, Hampshire, Burgess, Fell etc time to progress.'"

Do you think the fragrant Countess will settle in Wigan? ~ I think Cheshire may be more her style. Maybe they have an option on Wayne Rooney's gaff when he leaves this summer!

I can see another "family issues" contract being torn up here. I give it 3 months! Great player though.

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