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Quote: Father Ted "I do think there will be something very unpleasant in all this.
There has been so much talk about Wakey and Cas and their troubles, mainly financial that I do think they will be given an ultimatum, either merge as we are only having one club from the Wakefield MBC in Super League.
It may then be left to them both, or all three clubs in the area to sort it out.
We have two very uncompetitive clubs now in Wakey and Cas and maybe SL see it as one club from a population of approx 375k in a rugby league mad area could be a top four club and challenging for honours every year.
With some of the players in SL but not at those clubs it would seem a distinct possibility.
Whether they will overcome their own allegiencies and create a British StGeorge/Illawara I don't know but I simply can't see SL continuing with Rugby League in its currrent state in the area.
Hey Love, where did you put that tin hat??????????'"


here we go Wakey/Cas/Fev merger its likje chalk and cheese over here

Perhaps Wigan and saints would be a good merger at least you wouldnt have to annoy Wigan Athletic or the Premier league ruining the pitch you would surely fill Langtree between you, Oh I forgot even though the geography is just as close it wouldnt happen as you both have your identities!silly me.

As for merger I would rather see my club go into oblivion and think of the memories that watch a convoluted side that has no affinity to an area.

Hull/Hull KR

Widnes/Warrington

Leeds/Bradford (they have an airport)

Wigan/Saints

Should be considered in mergers the league would be sorted out overnight leave London and the French Team(s) make it an expensive weekend out evrytime you are awaay from home abosolute recipe for success in a recession.

I follow my team because its in my blood not because we believe we have a right to a trophy each year by hook or by crook.

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Quote: Les Norton "Just Leeds & Warrington'"

So all the other clubs have been relegated AND CAME BACK eh? Blimey.

Strange we all didn't go out of business when we were promoted again isn't it?
The problem with Rugby League is the constant tinkering and "innovating" (horrible word).

Here's an idea:
2 Divisions of 14. Bottom club goes down, top club comes up.
Play each other home and away. Add up the points at the end of the season - guess what? They are the champions (not the team that comes 5th) cos they are the best.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "So all the other clubs have been relegated AND CAME BACK eh? Blimey.

Strange we all didn't go out of business when we were promoted again isn't it?
The problem with Rugby League is the constant tinkering and "innovating" (horrible word).

Here's an idea
As has already been mentioned, it's a lot different when you're talking about one league of professionals and one of semi-pros. When a team goes down all the contracts get torn up and they have to look at drastically reducing what they pay players, both because of the cap difference and the big drop in income.

As a sport I'm currently unconvinced that P+R would be for the good. I'd go with a 10 team franchise with a cap the richest 4 can afford. This marquee player idea sounds good too. That way we get close games with all the best players spread between 10 teams instead of 14, and (hopefully) we wouldn't lose as many to Union and the NRL. In turn these close games with top players might stand a chance of bringing in bigger crowds, better sky deals, sponsorship etc. Then, if we invest that money wisely, we can look at the viability of two professional leagues with P+R between them.

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "
If you worked hard and got promoted at work but someone came along say from the board of directors, and looked at you and thought"No the last fellar who looked just like him made a hash of it, so for his own good I won't promote him. He can stay were he is for now and maybe in 3 years time when he's bought a better suit and he looks more like it I'll let him have his promotion".

Honestly, how would you feel?'"


Honestly it's more the case that you find the manager of a branch of a franchise who has run his to the ground, sacking half the staff there, shifting the other half to a new location just as unsustainable as the first. Whereas you've been working hard to do well in the second location, and you're now sacked to make way for the incoming labourers.

Because that's how promotion and relegation really works. The players themselves largely will not change league, because they are in the correct league to begin with.

Quote: Aboveusonlypie "As has already been mentioned, it's a lot different when you're talking about one league of professionals and one of semi-pros. '"


That pretty much answers the difference between now and the past.

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That's why two full time tens is the way

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Quote: maurice "That's why two full time tens is the way'"


So you are saying that 20 fully professional teams all paying out up to the cap, which is now £1.825m (rather than £1.65 + £175K you had to qualify for) is the way to go so there isn't the disparity between a pro and semi-pro league?

Given its accepted that not all the 14 teams in the current SL pay to the cap limit where are the extra 6 teams going to get the cash from?

Will the Sky money that is currently divided 14 ways be divided 20 ways thus seeing a drop in income for 14 clubs some of whom already struggle compared to the likes of Leeds and Wigan?

The basic question is how will two leagues of 10 teams be funded?

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