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[quote="headhunter":lnxdgxk2]Union people are idiots. They almost universally accept that league is a better, faster game played by better athletes, yet for some reason they continue to disregard and belittle it. That game is tedious as hell from start to finish. If he'd ever played or even bothered to give more than a fleeting chance to league he would realise that the game is far more 'technical' than Union ever could be. Booting the ball into touch, scrummaging and forming rucks and mauls aren't areas that involve any skill, technique or mental capacity whatsoever. These are clumsy, outdated facets of the game that are also extremely uninteresting to watch and thus have to be defended in some way by people who are too prejudiced to see the truth.[/quote:lnxdgxk2]: |
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| Thought this coming off the ground last night....and though I felt we played well, I can't help but worry about our form without tomkins, especially given in a couple of years he'll be most likely gone.
Coming off the ground I couldn't remember our last win with sam out the team, and so thought I'd check it out! Having a look into it now, our form in games without Sam since 2009 when he broke through is startling!
Without sam - 2009 to date;
P 13
W 2
D 1
L 10
Our last win without sam was in March 2011 away at Huddersfield, and since we have lost all 5 games without him!
That's absolutely shocking for me, and what you'd expect of a bottom of the league team....Also thats only the competitive games....when you calculate the friendlies without sam the figure's even higher!
For me this is something we badly need to address, particulary in light of wane's comments about learning to cope without sam and preparing for his inevitable leaving....This would seem to point out a far to heavy reliance on one player IMO!
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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf]
[quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]: |
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| Quote: 21-12 "I hope he goes ASAP. We've had the best 2 seasons out of him'"
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: 21-12 "I hope he goes ASAP. We've had the best 2 seasons out of him'"
You're getting more like your father with every post. ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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3632_1352982335.jpg Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery.......
I will look to the moment, and miraculously, the future will take care of itself.
Radio 5 Live, Sat, April 14th, 2007,...Dave Whelan, "In Wigan, rugby will always be king"
'I was certain, positive, convinced, and yet..........unsure'
'It's only rock 'n' roll, but I like it'
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I'm thinking of stopping his inheritance ![CRAZY d040.gif](images/smilies//d040.gif)
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2553.gif I've seen them bomb a quarter final, bottle a semi final, finish as league leaders, but I've still, never, seen the Wire win the league
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| wouldnt worry about this too much - when he goes we will change our style of play which is centred around him. at present the whole full back looping round the back thing is what we do. its fairly vogue at the minute but give it a couple of years and everyone will be laughing about it a la receiving a kikc off and kicking it back up the field or getting a tap penalty and passing it back 20 yards to run a move off a 2nd or 3rd receiver...etc etc
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| Quote: pk "wouldnt worry about this too much - when he goes we will change our style of play which is centred around him. at present the whole full back looping round the back thing is what we do. its fairly vogue at the minute but give it a couple of years and everyone will be laughing about it a la receiving a kikc off and kicking it back up the field or getting a tap penalty and passing it back 20 yards to run a move off a 2nd or 3rd receiver...etc etc'"
It may be too late by then.
What if, god forbid, he picks up an injury in late July when we have an appointment at Wembley and the playoffs to navigate without him.
Every team needs a plan B for worst case scenario - I'm yet to see ours.
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