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Quote: DaveO "
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No one is saying everything in the game is perfect, but to say that the league is now just 27 friendlies is laughable. What do some people not understand? A club needs to finish in the top eight to enter the play offs. To have a further advantage (ie such as hopefully playing at home, playing less play off games) a club needs to finish as high as possible in the top eight. '"


It's been done to death but anyone who is still of the opinion the current play off format requires you to try and finish higher up the league to gain most advantage is a few beers short of a six pack.'"


To explain the advantage of finishing higher up the league I've used last seasons play off games for Wigan and Leeds.

Round 1.
Both Wigan and Leeds win their respective home ties.

Round 2.
Wigan - Because Wigan finished higher up the league than Leeds, they have a bye into the semi - final.

Leeds - away tie at Catalans

Semi Final
Because Wigan finished higher up the league than Leeds Wigan have home advantage.

Wigan just didn't capitalise on their obvious advantage.

Now where is that 6 pack. I need a lie down.

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Quote: tugglesf78 "A rugger fan mate at work attended the game, could not rave about the atmosphere enough. He also told me the game was "ok, i suppose"

He then proceeded to tell me the England v Ireland kick fest was "enthralling"

You just cant help some people'"



Unbelievable.

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Quote: tugglesf78 "A rugger fan mate at work attended the game, could not rave about the atmosphere enough. He also told me the game was "ok, i suppose"

He then proceeded to tell me the England v Ireland kick fest was "enthralling"

You just cant help some people'"


The only thing enthralling about it was how static it was compared to the match on Friday night. I think I watched it in a pall of disbelief, while sitting inert on our couch.

I mean we all know that RU is essentially a different game, but even by normal RU standards, nothing seemed to be happening. Conditions were poor, I'd agree, but how can those two teams justify a game in which neither side appeared to have any kind of visible attack strategy. In RL, you commence your assault upon your opponents' line the moment you gain possession. You can't always make it from one end of the field to the other in six tackles, but the tactics are overtly offensive. In RU - certainly at international level, and definitely in that game - vast swathes of the match seem to get bound up in tedious midfield rucking and mauling, tit-for-tat kicking for touch and of course a fog of technical penalties, which are the only thing that ever seem to be a deciding factor.

Mind you, 10 out of 10 to their marketing people for managing to brainwash people like your mate into thinking they are watching something exciting.

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: DaveO "You totally missed the point there. Les Cat's had to play the top ranked team as a reward for finishing 4th. 8th got to play 5th and 5th got 8th which are obviously both easier games on paper. The fact Les Cat's didn't turn up doesn't alter that.'"

And you seem to be intent on ignoring the fact they got two bites at the cherry. Yes playing Wigan would be harder than playing Wakefield, but the advantage of winning that game is greater and the negative of losing it is lesser. Les Catalans win the progress to the elimination semi-final, Leeds win they progress to the preliminary semi-final. Les Catalans lose they go through to the preliminary semi-final, Leeds lose they are out.
Quote: DaveO "So what? It doesn't alter the fact in round one they had to play 1st. '"
A game they lost. Les Catalans lost and still got the home advantage, leeds won and didn’t. Why you are insisting on pretending that getting an opportunity to progress directly to the elimination semi-final is worse than not getting that opportunity, getting two bites of the cherry is worse than getting only one, and home advantage having lost game is worse than not getting home advantage even after winning a game I don’t know.

Quote: DaveO "It's actually a statistical fact that different playoff systems reward league positions differently to each other and that is what the debate is about, not the form of one team in any one year.

In the McIntrye final five system the statistical chance of 1st winning the whole thing is 37.5%. In the top 8 system he devised it drops to 18.75%.

The obvious and inescapable conclusion is the top 5 system rewards league position more and we have adopted a system that doesn't (its statistically even worse than the McIntrye top 8 ).

God knows why you are so wedded to the top 8 system. It's garbage in terms of rewarding league position.'"

No it isnt.

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A top 5/6 system puts the team finishing top straight into a home semi with a 2nd home semi if they lose. The top 8 system doesn't even guarentee the team finishing top a semi final never mind 2 home semi finals

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Quote: Captain13 "Correct....


i enjoyed it immensely and ive been one of the big moaners of late
Me too icon_thumb.gif

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