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[quote="headhunter":lnxdgxk2]Union people are idiots. They almost universally accept that league is a better, faster game played by better athletes, yet for some reason they continue to disregard and belittle it. That game is tedious as hell from start to finish. If he'd ever played or even bothered to give more than a fleeting chance to league he would realise that the game is far more 'technical' than Union ever could be. Booting the ball into touch, scrummaging and forming rucks and mauls aren't areas that involve any skill, technique or mental capacity whatsoever. These are clumsy, outdated facets of the game that are also extremely uninteresting to watch and thus have to be defended in some way by people who are too prejudiced to see the truth.[/quote:lnxdgxk2]: |
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| Ticket sales for Fridays game seem worryingly slow for a Wigan v Wire season opener!!
Is it the fact we've sold low ST sales, fan apathy due to lack of signings and general prospects this season, or just general poor take up on Wigan v Wire tickets - due to the fact that many think its wire's game to lose by a bag full?
OK so we're only on Monday but just checking the website shows only 12,996 sold in the wigan ends of a possible 18,700, so over 5.5k tickets to sell.
Even if wire bring their usual 3.5k (which may also fall down massively if wigan numbers are anything to go by), we're still only looking at 16.5k ticket sales for our second biggest home game of the season - A far cry from our last regular home game and selling wigan tickets in the saints end because we'd sold all home allocations!!
This is usually a fixture that easily gets 20k and as the opener we should have really been looking to test capacity IMO, yet 20k would look like a brilliant gate with sales as they are 4 days out.
What are people's thoughts? Why are sales so low, and is this a sign of a big dip in gates this season to coinside with people's dip in expectation- or a general dip as more become disengaged by a season where things only matter for the final 10%?!
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| Quote: tugglesf78 "A rugger fan mate at work attended the game, could not rave about the atmosphere enough. He also told me the game was "ok, i suppose"
He then proceeded to tell me the England v Ireland kick fest was "enthralling"
You just cant help some people'"
Unbelievable.
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| Quote: tugglesf78 "A rugger fan mate at work attended the game, could not rave about the atmosphere enough. He also told me the game was "ok, i suppose"
He then proceeded to tell me the England v Ireland kick fest was "enthralling"
You just cant help some people'"
The only thing enthralling about it was how static it was compared to the match on Friday night. I think I watched it in a pall of disbelief, while sitting inert on our couch.
I mean we all know that RU is essentially a different game, but even by normal RU standards, nothing seemed to be happening. Conditions were poor, I'd agree, but how can those two teams justify a game in which neither side appeared to have any kind of visible attack strategy. In RL, you commence your assault upon your opponents' line the moment you gain possession. You can't always make it from one end of the field to the other in six tackles, but the tactics are overtly offensive. In RU - certainly at international level, and definitely in that game - vast swathes of the match seem to get bound up in tedious midfield rucking and mauling, tit-for-tat kicking for touch and of course a fog of technical penalties, which are the only thing that ever seem to be a deciding factor.
Mind you, 10 out of 10 to their marketing people for managing to brainwash people like your mate into thinking they are watching something exciting.
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| Quote: DaveO "You totally missed the point there. Les Cat's had to play the top ranked team as a reward for finishing 4th. 8th got to play 5th and 5th got 8th which are obviously both easier games on paper. The fact Les Cat's didn't turn up doesn't alter that.'"
And you seem to be intent on ignoring the fact they got two bites at the cherry. Yes playing Wigan would be harder than playing Wakefield, but the advantage of winning that game is greater and the negative of losing it is lesser. Les Catalans win the progress to the elimination semi-final, Leeds win they progress to the preliminary semi-final. Les Catalans lose they go through to the preliminary semi-final, Leeds lose they are out. Quote: DaveO "So what? It doesn't alter the fact in round one they had to play 1st. '" A game they lost. Les Catalans lost and still got the home advantage, leeds won and didn’t. Why you are insisting on pretending that getting an opportunity to progress directly to the elimination semi-final is worse than not getting that opportunity, getting two bites of the cherry is worse than getting only one, and home advantage having lost game is worse than not getting home advantage even after winning a game I don’t know.
Quote: DaveO "It's actually a statistical fact that different playoff systems reward league positions differently to each other and that is what the debate is about, not the form of one team in any one year.
In the McIntrye final five system the statistical chance of 1st winning the whole thing is 37.5%. In the top 8 system he devised it drops to 18.75%.
The obvious and inescapable conclusion is the top 5 system rewards league position more and we have adopted a system that doesn't (its statistically even worse than the McIntrye top 8 ).
God knows why you are so wedded to the top 8 system. It's garbage in terms of rewarding league position.'"
No it isnt.
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| A top 5/6 system puts the team finishing top straight into a home semi with a 2nd home semi if they lose. The top 8 system doesn't even guarentee the team finishing top a semi final never mind 2 home semi finals
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| Quote: Captain13 "Correct....
i enjoyed it immensely and ive been one of the big moaners of late
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