What are we all thinking for next week now pre season is complete? Who's impressed and who's not?

I'd shake things up a little and go for a couple of youngsters who I believe have forced their way in to the reckoning with strong pre seasons.

Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Thornley
Richards
Green
Smith
Dudson
McIlorum
Mossop
Hughes
Farrell
Lockers

Subs
Taylor
Prescott
Burke
L Tomkins

I'd pick Burke ahead of guys like Flower and Tuson for two reasons. 1- because he's had an excellent pre season and 2- to try and build more competition and get more from the likes of those two.

I'd also give Logan Tomkins a bench spot. We can't afford to run McIlorum in to the ground this year and even if Tomkins is only doing a couple of ten minute spells he'll help on that front.

Personally I'd go

Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Gelling
Pat
Green
Smith
Prescott
Mickey
Dudson
Hughes
Farrell
Lockers

Tomkins
Luauaki
Taylor
Flower

I'd go with that apart from maybe Powell off the bench instead of Logan, with Smith doing a stint at hooker when he comes on

Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Thornley
Richards
Green
Smith
Prescott
Mccollorum
Mossop
Farrell
Hughes
Lockers

Taylor/Dudson/luauaki (2 from these 3)
Flower
Powell

Powell offers more versatility and for me is a better player than Logan tomkins.

That's the team I would go for. Of all our forwards in pre-season Burke has been the best and it makes sense to reward him for that. He can play loose, second row or prop and he defends well.

Thornley must be picked at centre as he looked much more convincing there than Hughes has and he was facing better opposition.

Unfortunately, while we have an abundance of prop forwards, none of them have really stood out during pre-season so it's going to be hard to choose between them.

Mossop will presumably start - Lauaki has been injured and possibly won't make the side against Salford - Prescott has been disappointing, but he's probably not quite up to speed after last season - Dudson has been hit and miss - Taylor has strong moments but misses far too many tackles - Flower has had very little impact - Crosby has looked reasonably good but seems lightweight and tires far too quickly.

I think Wane's choice of props for the Salford game will be Mossop, Flower, Prescott, Taylor and if Flower is also to be used in the back row then Dudson too.

Burke and Tomkins have impressed me in the friendlys.

My Choice would be:

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Goulding
4. Thornley
5. Richards
6. Green
7. Smith
8. Prescott
9. McIlorum
10. Mossop
11. Hughes
12. Farrell
13. O'Loughlin

14. Taylor
15. Lauaki
16. Tomkins
17. Burke

I think Tuson, Flower and possibly Gelling could be in there somewhere, come match day though.

Murphy
Charnley
Goulding
Thornley
Paaaaat
Green
Smith
Prescott
MM
Mossop
Hughes
Farrell
Lockers

Sam
Dudson
Taylor
Logan/Burke

no i havnt gone mad, but chucking Sam in to start without having set foot on a Rugby field in pre season is.

So when would you play him, seeing as he can't now play for the academy side due to the no overage rule?

How is Tomkins playing against Salford in the first game of the season that much different to him playing against Salford or Wire in a friendly? What's the risk?

Think threads like this show the difficulties we are going to have this season - Our first 13 still looks pretty good but once we start picking up injuries we litterally have no strength in depth with the losses we have had over the past 2 years.

At the start of the 2011 season we were capable of naming two packs as good as any in SL...now we struggle to name one

Almost wish we had the option of giving fielden another year now!

Looking very weak in the pack with tuson and hansen out, but I would go with the following;

1. Sam
2. Charnley
3. Goulding
4. Hughes
5. Richards
6. Green
7. Smith
8. Mossop
9. Micky
10. Lauaki
11. Taylor
12. Farrell
13. SOL
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14. Dudson
15. Prescott
16. Powell
17. Gelling

Should be enough for Salford on Friday but unfortunately see nothing more than big disappointment the week after against wire!

Been told Sam isnt fit either so weather he plays on Friday or not is a doubt... not sure how much truth is in that though.

My team would be..


Sam if fit... if not Murphy.
Charnley
Goulding
Hughes
Richards
Green
Smith
Prescott
McIlorum
Mossop
Tuson
Farrell
O'Loughlin

Lauaki
Dudson
Gelling
L.Tomkins

Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Hughes
Richards
Green
Smith
Mossop
Mcilorum
Prescott
Tuson
Farrell
O'Loughlin

Lauaki
Taylor
Flower
Tomkins

Bit depressing writing that - the squad's gone downhill pretty quickly hasn't it?