I won't be giving my views till the whistle gone at challenge cup final and grand final whistle because the rest of the season means feck all

It's set up for an England / NZ semi. Our home record against the Kiwis is very good.

In fairness to you all I wouldn't be travelling all that way on a cold, wet and possibly snowy Sunday in early January to watch a side not to different to that of last weeks playing against a better opposition than Leigh (no offence meant by this).

Have to agree also, you guys are aiming for the Grand Final and while I'd like to think HKR are too at this stage of the season, realistically you are more likely to get there and to have your lads playing early January all the way through to October it is a long 10 months.

It will be interesting to see how your youngsters go against a pretty strong HKR line-up. Not our first team by a long way IMO but still much stronger than the squad you're sending over the M62.

Safe journey to those coming, credit to you hard core! Those not coming, just remember it isn't about the result but about progressing your youngsters experiences in the game. They'll all be better for it.

It's a strange squad really. I can't see how you can assess these fringe players properly when they're on the end of a stuffing. For example if you were judging them on how they played against Leigh you'd be worried! You need to see how they would fit into the first team and how they play alongside the regulars.

Would have liked to have seen a few more first teamers involved and rotate it a bit. Similar to the squad that travelled to KR last year.

Hopefully this week they show at least half an ounce of enthusiasm and a desire to stand out and get into the first team.

I agree with that. I really don't see how any worthwhile judgements can be made of the players involved in the Leigh game and if the HKR one goes the same way that also.

The other thing is we have almost got a new first 13 given the number of players who left in 2012. I'd have thought the more games together our "new" team had the better. Doesn't need to be the full 80 but I just hope Matty Smith and Blake Green aren't reduced to sending post cards to each other to get an understanding before the season kicks off.

We have three more friendlies but I think realistically only two (i.e. excluding South Wales) can be used to get the team up and running. I hope to see Smith and Green in particular in both.

I was going to go to this but I think I'll give it a miss looking at that team, long way to go to watch the reserves