Don't talk crap ! You've got proffessinal sports people in a lot higher grade sports like prem footballers for a eg. Who don't even get 12 month bans for the same offences . 2 years ban for a recreational drug is a decent punishment . Any player deserves a 2nd chance . I wouldn't like you be in charge of any state of mind programmes , let's throw them to the dogs and sacked him and let's some one like wire pick them up on a freebie , that's a good idea haha NOT !!!

Genocide, life ban I think. Whilst it may not be currently covered by the sport, it's up there with recreational drug use.

Hes been sacked and in process of signing with another club, that im not sure off yet.

Why is he in a privelaged position? has he not earned the right to be playing a game that he loves and be getting paid for it, after all he is the one who dedicated his early life to cold Sunday mornings playing for amateur clubs.

Being a Saints Fan, looking at this rumour from outside the cherry and white box, I can't help but think if this rumour is true then losing another good player in such a short space of time can only damage whatever preparation time you have left for the start of the season.

Whatever his misdemeanours, whatever his off field antics other club fans cannot deny the fact that Hock is one of the best 2nd row forwards in this competition, and I hated every minute of Good Friday and Magic Weekend as he presented danger to our defence everytime he had ball in hand be it in his own 10-20 metres or in the opposition 40, he could provide the brilliant pass to set the likes of Tomkins, Charnley etc. towards the try line.

He'll be a loss if the rumours are true though.

He'll be a massive loss if any of this is true. If he has done something stupid I guess the club don't really have any other option.

i was for hock getting the boot for his drug offence but to paraphrase the status quo on here at the time it was 'give him another chance but if he steps out of line then get shut'

i hope for our sake these infighting/arguing etc rumours are false as id hate to think our club would bottle sorting it out.

unfortunately true, has been sacked and has gone AWOL.

didnt show up for training after his surgery, announcement to be made soon.

if he has been sacked,, that makes it a whole lot easier for other clubs to sign him for nothing,,sacked or not,,,wont wigan still have to pay him something to? im not up on this never been sacked from anywhere lol..

Yes unfortunatley this does seem not to be just hearsay, "BIG LOSS" we need cover and we need it fast, I think were unlikley to get a high profile Aussie in so maybe we should be looking at the older generation of aussies who could cover and bring some great experience to the team, Menzies is an option, Nathan Hindmarsh retiered last year maybe we could bring him back for one last shindig, not exactly a practical possiblitily though, tony williams would be a nice addition or even or even Mannering now hes a player who could help out!

Here we go again

i thought a hock rumour not being on for a month was way to long.