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| Quote: lothlorian "How can a player that isnt shortlisted by his fellow professionals for Man Of Steel, Isnt in the World team of the year, isnt even the best in his position be named the worlds best player ahead of the likes of Cooper Cronk. Once again these individual awards seriously lack credibility. Sinfield is great CAPTAIN, but the worlds best.....give me a break'"
Sinfield is nothing more than a great captain. Best player in the world? Out of that shortlist I would have put him last by a long shot and with the quality of the Aussies on that shortlist our own Sam would have been 2nd last.
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| Quote: tigertot "An interesting one. Farrell was undoubtedly magnificent in his efforts as player & leader, as you suggest he held that team together as his personal playing ability deteriorated & Wigan's standing faded. Sinfield is never going to lead by sheer physical effort & screaming at his players from behind the sticks or at a stoppage, he is physically not up to it, nor mentally does he approach captaincy that way. Sinfield needs great players around him to lead around the park, he would be absolutely devastating if he was captain of the Aussies, which is the reason I think he has struggled to shine against the Aussies (along with 99% of British players). If Sinfield plays against the Aussies he has to be the captain & direct everything, he is the best I have ever seen at that, but he is not the best player in any individual position.'"
Agreed.
I think Sinfield winning the Golden Boot was based purely upon his exploits as captain at Leeds and with England during 2012. I was surprised he won it, as I thought there were more deserving players, but I am however happy he won it. | | |
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| Quote: tigertot "An interesting one. Farrell was undoubtedly magnificent in his efforts as player & leader, as you suggest he held that team together as his personal playing ability deteriorated & Wigan's standing faded. Sinfield is never going to lead by sheer physical effort & screaming at his players from behind the sticks or at a stoppage, he is physically not up to it, nor mentally does he approach captaincy that way. Sinfield needs great players around him to lead around the park, he would be absolutely devastating if he was captain of the Aussies, which is the reason I think he has struggled to shine against the Aussies (along with 99% of British players). If Sinfield plays against the Aussies he has to be the captain & direct everything, he is the best I have ever seen at that, but he is not the best player in any individual position.'"
TBF, I think anybody who understands RL would be a good captain of Australia and even some who don't. When you have players like Slater, Inglis, Smith, Thurston, Cronk, Gallen and even Boyd you don't really need to do too much skippering as they can win a game all on their own. Yes every now and again you'll fail but 9/10 you'll come through easy enough. I mean, they've only lost 3 competitions since 1972. How much leading do they need?! | | |
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| Quote: Conroy "TBF, I think anybody who understands RL would be a good captain of Australia and even some who don't. When you have players like Slater, Inglis, Smith, Thurston, Cronk, Gallen and even Boyd you don't really need to do too much skippering as they can win a game all on their own. Yes every now and again you'll fail but 9/10 you'll come through easy enough. I mean, they've only lost 3 competitions since 1972. How much leading do they need?!'"
Fair point. I suppose a better test would be to stick Sinfield in a top NRL team, where there is plenty of equal opposition, & see how he fared. | | | |
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| Quote: Conroy "TBF, I think anybody who understands RL would be a good captain of Australia and even some who don't. When you have players like Slater, Inglis, Smith, Thurston, Cronk, Gallen and even Boyd you don't really need to do too much skippering as they can win a game all on their own. Yes every now and again you'll fail but 9/10 you'll come through easy enough. I mean, they've only lost 3 competitions since 1972. How much leading do they need?!'"
Agreed most of the time it would be, just sit back and enjoy the ride! | | |
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| What I've found most interesting in this whole episode is Sadler has reminded me why I stopped buying his publications long ago, by refusing to post any details of the voting panel, nevermind who voted for whom - rlhttp://www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php/topic/235905-and-the-winner-of-the-golden-boot-is/page__st__300#entry2614975rl
My personal favourite as to the reason for this was......
Quote: man-up "In the recent past some members of the panel who have cast votes have been subject to vitriolic criticism through social media for the way they voted. With the growth of Twitter and other media I can only imagine that the trend would continue.'"
You'd imagine if any sport would be able to "man-up" in terms of defending their opinion it would be those involved in RL.
It's a good job that unknown sport, football, doesn't have a high profile, especially on social media as it decided to publish how every national manager, national captain and journalist voted to determine their world player of the year - rlhttp://www.fifa.com/mm/document/ballond'or/playeroftheyear(men)/01/98/07/84/fboawardmenplayer2012-bycountry.pdfrl | | | |
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