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Quote: SmokeyTA "Sadly, the answer is that the ambitious clubs in tier 2 need to be better. None of them are knocking on the door of SL. None of them are ‘sleeping giants’ or clubs ready to take the next step. We can complain all we want about how ambitious tier 2 clubs cant get promoted, but they themselves are struggling to make any sort of argument that they should be.

For all the complaints about Salford, there isn’t a club outside SL which would come in and get noticeably better attendances.


SKy arent bothered about 2nd tier sport, even the championship in football is a relatively poor relation,'"


To be fair it's a catch22 situation, they need to be "banging on the door" but they can't do that as the competition doesn't have the exposure needed and the quality will automatically be lower due to the lower income and salary cap. That's the way the twin tier would work because you could have it set so that there was 10 or so in each with a smaller salary cap gulf maybe 2 and 1.2 million.

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Quote: stillinthepast "What I find strange is that it is said that the Salford club have not been involved in these talks,but are being kept informed by Nigel Wood.
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The club has no assets and is mired in debt so the current directors have nothing really to add to any discussion regarding the takeover (except a few issues over liability for existing debt).

The club is in debt to the council (who also own the ground with Peel Holdings as part of a joint venture) so all the talks are centred on these parties. The RFL have seemingly facilitated the deal with Koukash so they are presumably hoping to smooth any issues over.

It appears Koukash is looking to get a better deal for Salford in relation to the ludicrous terms under which we have to play at Barton and to get more access to greater revenue streams from the ground. This can only be a good thing and hopefully Peel and the council realise sharpish that he holds all the cards and sign up or otherwise the club is going under.

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Quote: Walshovski "

It appears Koukash is looking to get a better deal for Salford in relation to the ludicrous terms under which we have to play at Barton and to get more access to greater revenue streams from the ground. This can only be a good thing and hopefully Peel and the council realise sharpish that he holds all the cards and sign up or otherwise the club is going under.'"


If that is the case good luck to him. I was very surprised when I found out they by moving to a new ground Salford were on for less revenue than from the old place. Modernising is supposed to be a good thing!

I suppose it doesn't matter if you have a favorable lease as Wigan do and have a big supporter base also as Wigan do but it just seemed nuts Salford needed to get 8000+ every game or otherwise the new ground was a millstone.

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Quote: DaveO "If that is the case good luck to him. I was very surprised when I found out they by moving to a new ground Salford were on for less revenue than from the old place. Modernising is supposed to be a good thing!

I suppose it doesn't matter if you have a favorable lease as Wigan do and have a big supporter base also as Wigan do but it just seemed nuts Salford needed to get 8000+ every game or otherwise the new ground was a millstone.'"


A popular misconception, own/run your stadium even if it is a dump still provides income, shiny new rented stadium works if you can get the numbers, kills you if you dont

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Quote: DaveO "If that is the case good luck to him. I was very surprised when I found out they by moving to a new ground Salford were on for less revenue than from the old place. Modernising is supposed to be a good thing!

I suppose it doesn't matter if you have a favorable lease as Wigan do and have a big supporter base also as Wigan do but it just seemed nuts Salford needed to get 8000+ every game or otherwise the new ground was a millstone.'"


Still far from convinced we have great terms on the lease.

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Quote: DaveO "If that is the case good luck to him. I was very surprised when I found out they by moving to a new ground Salford were on for less revenue than from the old place. Modernising is supposed to be a good thing!

I suppose it doesn't matter if you have a favorable lease as Wigan do and have a big supporter base also as Wigan do but it just seemed nuts Salford needed to get 8000+ every game or otherwise the new ground was a millstone.'"


The sums for moving to the new ground were done on the back of an envelope with no real thought if it was realistic. When the prospect of us owning the ground went, we had no choice to move as The Willows had already been sold and Salford just carried on as if the figures still all added up.

If reports are to be believed Koukash has attempted to buy the ground from Peel/Salford council but my guess is Peel will put a block on this as they can afford to play the long game. Salford council would probably be willing to cash in given the chance.

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