Completely agree.

The game appears to be run by idiots, nobody seems interested in the good of the game and instead everyone is only bothered in their own interests.

We have a shocking playoff system which rewards teams who finish in the bottom half of thr thr table with a chance to become champions. We have a corrupt disciplinery panel. A bloke in control of refs who doesnt seem to be on this planet.

And now with the NRL increasing their cap and Union sniffing around I truely believe our game will be semi-pro in the next 10 years. We'll then have a lovely competitve league everyone seems to want.

People are looking for a conspiracy theory, but perhaps he saw an opportunity to go and live in Australia, in a completely different culture, for plenty of dollarydoos, and play in the 'best' rugby league competition in the world.

Then that will seriously cheese a lot of Wigan fans off considering the way the club has stood by him over recent years.

You get the prize for the first bunch of platitudes related to this to be posted.

He has (had?) four years of a five year contract to run which should mean he doesn't (didn't?) actually have any such opportunity. The only reason he can go is because Wigan agree to it and if the club trots out something similar to what I already posted about "not wanting to stand in a players way, blah, blah" then they are as good as admitting we are [inever[/i going to keep any good players on the books.

Whatever Hock's reasons are the CLUB is party to this move and so has to explain why it is letting an England International leave one year into a five year deal especially after it has invested so much time and effort into his rehabilitation. Not standing in his way just won't cut it.

Parramatta Eeels forum claiming hes signed a 4 year deal with them. Its going mad on there !!!

Sporting contracts aren't worth the paper they are printed on anymore. People on here seem resigned to the fact that Tomkins will only be a Wigan player for another 12 months, despite the fact he has a long contract with you. He has a clause preventing him speaking to other clubs, which isn't as long as the contract. What does that tell you about the worth of the contract?

Yes, Wigan fans probably can feel aggrieved that (if the rumours are true) Hock isn't repaying the faith shown in him by the club. But ultimately, that is down to Hock's own conscience; if the club don't have a legal contract that stipulates that the rehabilitation excludes Hock from signing professional terms with any other sporting club for a certain term, he can move on, and let his future club pay Wigan any compo.

Honestly would be devastated if Hock left, nothing would hurt more than that. He is our best forward by a long way, creativity in abundance, the only one who bothers to offload, yes he is a bit of a nutcase and loves a rumble, but I adore watching him in our second row, knowing he can change a game in an instant and there are very very few forwards on this planet who can do that. He would be fantastic in the NRL, but I’d be very sad and peed off to see him go, because we’re going nowhere but down the table very very quickly

If Hock moves it is 'The king is dead, long live the king' scenario. The same will be said with Tomkins, SOL, HH, or anybody else who moves on to pastures new for more money. One day all these players will be retired and forgotten, the same with Faz, Rads and the others from the team from 10 years or so ago.

It tells me exactly what is says on the tin. That he has a five year contract which within the first three years precludes him speaking to any other club and that this is enforceable.



The fact Wigan can enforce Tomkins contract means contracts [iare [/ienforceable and I am sure all clubs do not employ legal numpties who draw up contracts with more holes in them than a sieve. The idea any player can sign a deal with another club and just walk out without his current clubs agreement is nonsense. If Wigan refused to release him there is no way on earth another club would risk signing the player and if you think that isn't a problem you have clearly forgotten what happened to Bradford when they felt free to sign Harris.

Leeds sued them for signing a player who's registration they held and they won. That shows you there is legal authority behind contracts and means Wigan must agree to any move.

Therefore as a Wigan fan as I said I want to see the clubs justification for this as much as I do Hock's. Regardless of what I may think of the way he has treated the club and fans, the club is IMO in the dock as well.

If Hock leaves then we will have NO attacking options in the pack. Lockers, Hansen, Mcilorum are all workhorses with little game changing ability.

Add into the mix we've lost two strike backs in Tommy and Carmont then it's painstakingly obvious to me all other teams need to do next season is mark Sam out of the game.

God knows what happens when Sam leaves.

I have supported IL to the hilt but he's watched over the biggest destruction of a quality team that I've ever seen in any sport.

There is a slight flaw in your argument here. We aren't getting any new kings. A few pretenders to the throne maybe.