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| Quote Dougy="Dougy"No one would complain if the team finishing top where the champions. We wouldn't have page after page on these forums saying does the system need changing?
just like they don't on football forums.
Then have a top 8 Prem Trophy playoff. Its not rocket science. Oh and non-rl fans might just jump on the bandwagon.
Ok we lose a 70k GF attendance but what people save on money not going to that may mean they go to internationals instead. GB v Australia at Old Trafford with 70K on instead is probably better. We could market that all season instead of marketing the GF.'"
To be fair thats what the playoffs are basically meant to be but Sky would just change it to how it is now so it wouldnt work sadly.
Its basically the same as it is now except we would be trying to rebrand and it would just end up like it is now.
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| Quote Salty="Salty"Finishing fifth, in this present system, is better than finshing first.
Play-0ffs:
week one: Fifth plays home against 8th who are poor because they finished in the bottom half of the table.
First plays home against 4th who are obviously one of the best teams in superleague.
week two: It is expected that fifth will now play at 4th team which is probably tired or demoralised after playing top team away. After week one this is a steady build up for fifth.
First is expected to get a week off, which will rest any niggles but not serious knocks. Not playing means that their momentum is stopped unlike the fifth team.
week three: Fifth will now go to 1st. Another step up but let's not forget momentum is gathering. In a semi final home advantage doesn't matter. 1st team have lost their momentum and therefore either can win.
Let's hope Wigan finsih 5th next season and rest players during the season so they will be fresh for Wembley and the play-offs.'"
someone in the PoundBakery today was saying to me that finishing 8th in a top 8 system gives you a better chance of winning the GF then finishing 5th in a top 5 playoff. Think about it. It actually does!!!!
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| Quote Dougy="Dougy"Then have a top 8 Prem Trophy playoff. Its not rocket science. Oh and non-rl fans might just jump on the bandwagon.'"
If the only reason non-rl fans don't follow the greatest game on earth is because we have a complicated but fantastic end of season play-off then there is no hope. We used to have a top 8 Premiership, it wasn't a patch on the GF.
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| Are we basing our play offs on the ozzie game? The ozzie have a play off system because they dont have a wembley challenge cup final. We do. So why copy the ozzie system who are trying to make up for not having a wembley final?
The old top 8 premier was best, it was still drawing in large crowds at old trafford in 1997.
3 decent trophys in a season, SL Challenge cup, SL premier cup, sl championship
Winning all 3 would create a SL grand slam.
Funny how people still mention the SL double, not the treble, its obvious the league leaders trophy is nonsense.
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| The best way to get it changed would be for us to win the GF from 5th. Would soon be changed 
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| Teams will be scared to finish top from now on. The super league may end up like the eliminator race in the olympic cycling, where its a disadvantage finishing 1st and an advantage sneaking in 8th in the last week. Wiggins could give us a some strategies on that
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| Ok so i'm sad and did a basic maths equation on the current system and i was surprised by the result. I'll show later what i based it on but this was the conclusion.
5th is the second most advantageous position behind 1st
In order of most advantageous
1st
5th
2nd & 6th joint
3rd & 7th joint
4th & 8th joint
This is based on the worst possible outcome for each team.
Giving 1st place a score of 10 working down and giving 8th a score of 3.
Adding the points up, and lower the tally the easier, 5th came out second.
Any team that plays against 1st gets 10 points.
So opening round
Wigan 7 points
Wire 8 points
Saints 9 points
Catalan 10 points
Leeds 3 points
you can work out the rest.
Then you work it as though you may play all the rounds.
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| Quote Mash Butty="Mash Butty"Are we basing our play offs on the ozzie game? The ozzie have a play off system because they dont have a wembley challenge cup final. We do. So why copy the ozzie system who are trying to make up for not having a wembley final?
=#FF0040The old top 8 premier was best, it was still drawing in large crowds at old trafford in 1997.
3 decent trophys in a season, SL Challenge cup, SL premier cup, sl championship
Winning all 3 would create a SL grand slam.
Funny how people still mention the SL double, not the treble, its obvious the league leaders trophy is nonsense.'"
Crowds, Saints V Wigan finals at Old Trafford.
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| This could all be sorted so easily all they need is 2 titles "League Champions" instead of leaders and "Playoff Champions".
You'd think it was rocket science but it really isn't.
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| Quote Benidorm John="Benidorm John"Crowds, Saints V Wigan finals at Old Trafford.
1992 33157
1993 36598
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Sure a Hull v Widnes final got a 40-odd thousand sell out. Think it was when OT was being redeveloped and capacity was restricted.
I still maintain that the GF impacts on the Test attendances. Since the GF was introduced we've barely had a Test crowd over 25k. Prior to the GF we had an Ashes in 1994 with crowds of 40k, 50k, and 70k.
Getting rid of GB and the Ashes - another RFL brainwave!
We need a 26 game league season intermittent with the Challenge Cup games. Top of league is Champions, the top 8 then playoff for the Premiership trophy. Then have an Ashes, a Tri Nations or a World Cup.
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| Quote Benidorm John="Benidorm John"Crowds, Saints V Wigan finals at Old Trafford.
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crowds at Wembley
1985 99K
1987 91K
1988 94K
by your logic the challenge cup is now officially a failure
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