Well I have heard the mantra that everyone knows the rules at the start of the season until I am sick of it. I want to watch a winning team but I also want us to win trophies. And next season I will select the games that I want to pay to see more cautiously than this season. I am not a season ticket holder but if I were I wouldn't be next season.

Leeds are a GREAT team. Five Grand Final wins in six years is the mark of a GREAT team. Nine of the players who beat Saints in 2007 played in their win V Wire on Saturday.

They have beaten the fourth and first placed teams away to get to the final, and then beaten the second placed team in the final.

Leeds DESERVE the accolade of a GREAT team.

Sadly, they are a great CUP team, and that is what the league has been reduced to.

I'll be there again next seaosn, but I can FULLY understand anyone not renewing their season ticket.
Maybe a half-seaosn ticket might be a better investment - Just watching the games that teams might actually care about winning.

but you need to accept that the 3 MAJOR trophies available WCC GF & CC arre all knock out cup competitions and that the LLS is a MINOR trophy.

It has always been that way in the SL era and largely throughout the preceding 50 years in various formats.

I understand if fans want value for money in terms of the ST but the difficulty is if they reduce the number of SL teams to 10 to make the league a more intense competition week on week then the clubs will need to charge a much higher ticket price per game.

!0 SL Teams League with a reintroduced Top 5 Play Off.
Leeds
Warrington
Wigan
Saints
Catalan
Huddersfield
Hull/HKR merger
Wakefield/Cas merger
Bradford
London

I have no problem with Leeds being champions because they won the competition as set out before them. What I find odd and slightly irritating is the insistence of certain Sky pundits calling it a great achievement from fifth.

One of the ideas of finishing higher in the league is that you get home games in the play offs whereas we all know that's not ideal, look at Wigan's home and away record this year.

I know it's hypothetical but doesn't anyone think Wigan could have done a much better job from fifth.

Re: We need cheering up

Paul Wellens knocks on Sam Tomkins door, Sam opens it and Wellens shouts "trick or treat!"
Sam, stands there scratching his chin and asks for a "trick" ,
Wellens says " sorry I havent got any" and walks off....

Com'on I least I tried,...