I find it immensely sad that committed fans like Bilko and DD over on Redvee are feeling so disillusioned and disenfranchised that their enthusiasm for the game has fallen so low, and sadly I fear it's part of a wider malaise among fans, with many I've spoken to expressing doubts over whether to renew season tickets.

Notwithstanding the senior management of the game including things like the Stobart deal and the frankly ludicrous 'Clubcall' - which have been discussed to death - the product on the field is an absolute mess. It says something about the state of the game that my team Saints were able to bore their way from 10th in the league to 40 mins away from a Grand Final by simply reverting to the most boring, sterile gameplan I've ever seen in all my years watching the sport and the most scary thing is that, in some quarters, that will be, and is being, defined as a job well done. Never mind entertaining the fans or trying to play with any kind of expressive style - points on the board even in the most turgid fashion possible "We need to understand what the hell we are about. We are all talking about huge TV deals, right, how much the game is worth - well, the game is worth nothing if we can't entertain people. My grandson said it to me recently, he's nine. "I said, 'Mate, come and watch the footy with me'. Anyway, one of the teams was coming out of their own end and the other was defending. He looked at me and said, 'Hey coach, give me a yell when they get down the other end of the field, when they look like scoring a try'. And he picked up his ball and went outside. I mean, these are the people we are trying to attract. It's not the 40 or 50-year-olds who have been rugby league fans their entire lives and love the game. This is for those who want to be converted and those who aren't sure. It's our next generation.""'"

Do you not think that it makes to much sense?

Agreed in principal but the powers that be still want 2 major club finals thus the GF will stay as we know it.

The problem with a 12 team super league would be only 11 home games for each club, i believe most club chairman wanted the guarantee of 13 games for revenue reasons

The CC rounds need to be closer together (no pre season games)with a June final,i.e
4th rd 1st wk in April
5th rd 3rd wk in April
6th rd 1st wk in May
SF 3rd wk in May
Final in June.

Therefore break of 10-12 weeks to play offs

No Magic Weekend

Play Offs
The league leaders to be given credibility (cash incentive and direct access to the GF) 2nd place to 5th place straight knockout, downside the LL will have a 2 week break to the GF.
All challenge cup & play off games ..£10 for adults - £5 for juniors.

The world cup challenge at the end of the season between the top two clubs from either side
LL & GF winners if same the CC winners, the Aussies will choose their own.

Return of the tours if room can be accommodated in the schedule

I still think the club would gain support if they offered cup ans play off games at 10 quid per adult and 5 quid per concession

Salford given a winding up petition: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/ It's about time we moved to a 10 team competition and quick.

Salford given a winding up petition: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/ It's about time we moved to a 10 team competition and quick.