The cap has nothing to do with our current situation. For what it's worth I would want Wigan to stay, rightly or wrongly the top league without certain clubs (including Wigan) just wouldn't feel right.

It was and the majority of the clubs voted for us to stay in superleague.

Not sure what's funny?

Stop it. You're killing me!

Forgetting all the emotion behind all of this what teams out of The championship would actually add anything to superleague ?

That is a very, very good question and one which you would think the RL authorities would be addressing their minds to as a priority.

For me, there is only one RL club outside SL whose inclusion could bring significant benefits to the competition. The RL authorities should be doing absolutely everything they can to get a viable Toulouse side into the competition. Catalans have established themselves as a major club in RL, Toulouse have the potential to be bigger than Wigan and Leeds.

I think now we aree getting round to the crux of why the RFL / Clubs wanted to save the Bulls and keep them in the SL.

Otheriwse you would have say Halifax thrust into SL, needing to upgrade the quality of there playing staff and potentially be back to square one, dropping crowds,dropping income, no real competition and potentially taking the club under as they strive to compete in SL.

Unless there are people out there with money to initially bank roll the club similar to David Hughes at the Broncos then we have a real stalemate as to where the game goes.

One poster on here asks about the salary cap, one thing is for sure, it is driving ambitious investors away from the game as they cannot see any return for there money, what you have is a select few clubs with directors/owners willing to invest in the right staff to drive off field activities and who are willing to wait for there money, The game needs to open up more and be willing to take more risks to attarct investment and sponsors like pre salary cap when we didnt have as many clubs in such difficulty as we have now and a flourishing international game attracting 50,000 crowds to Old Trafford and Wembley stadium.

I dont know inns and outs of the bulls situation and surely they have been playing under the cap? No real top talent who would be busting the bank?

Anyway if you take a step back and look at it from a neutral perspective then it would be unfair if they were to remain in SL at the expense of other teams, who have worked hard within the rules.

Tho this situation does throw up some good questions Does the sc work is the licensing helping or hindering our game

I think the sc has worked tho nowadays not fit for purpose no one side is dominant due to purely financial reasons however some sides are now hindered by it. I would look to modernising the rules so its more income based and have no ceiling if a club can generate say 100m then should be allowed to spend say 10m on players n wages. I know the numbers are hi but i feel this would force clubs to run more like a business where succes on and off the pitch would be rewarded accordingly.

In terms of the Cap it was supposed to level out the playing field, the difficulty has been that clubs have not been able to spend up to the cap. If all clubs spent to the cap, then the spread of players would be more even.

I am not advocating that clubs over spend, but I think the assumption was that after a few years all clubs would head to the cap and so even out the players.

In terms of protecting clubs from themselves, it could be done. The question is whether is should be done?

A simple condition of the licence could be that over a 3 year period clubs must breakeven. Any club who does not would lose the licence no questions.

However that requires the RFL to be hardline and it would stop clubs developing stadia, Saints have incurred huge losses to build a new stadium. Would the RFL have the strength of will to follow through? Would clubs who make losses take the RFL to court to try and justify a new licence? Clubs would have to cut costs and would fans accept a drop in playing standards to secure the finances of their club, whilst other clubs with big money men donating huge cash injections to their teams storm ahead?

Like I say a breakeven cap could be imposed, the question is should it be, or should it simply be survival of the fittest with no regulation.