obviously finishing 1st in the league at the end of the weekly rounds is a great achievement and one i want as much as Waney & the players but our play-off form last year wasn't up to much at all. we've largely had the better of saints in the weekly rounds for a few years now but when it comes to play off rugby i'm not as confident, against saints or any other team. take last year for instance when we tonked them in the weekly rounds but were ont he back end of 2 reverses come the playoffs.

our first big MUST WIN game this year was the leeds game in the CC semi and we bottled it, whereas we tonked them at their gaff in june in the league and i find it hard to believe that, with little changes to the personnel other than tommy being injured, that it is anything other than mentality and attitude. i also think that despite Wanes fantasically loyal support of his side it can sometimes be too overbearing and puts too much pressure on the players whether they/we like to agree or not. i cant help but feel we'll take the same attitude into the playoffs whether we finish 1st or 2nd but of course i hope i'm wrong!

we still have a LOT of work to do in my opinion but even if wire win on saturday, which i think they will, i think we can still just nick top spot.

I want to finish 1st no question about it, it is a trophy in the cabinet and adds to our already glittering history!

I agree finishing top is not the priority now. We will have a home game on the first game we play in the play-offs now barring a major disaster. Its better if we have a fully fit squad for that game now than finishing top. Wether its Saints, Leeds or Catalan it will be a hard game regardless. If we are top for of SL before we play Saints then we should send out a weakened side and not risk any of our players. Saints might have to win it to be in the top 4 and i would rather play them than Leeds if we finished 2nd. Not saying we should throw the game but not to risk our main players in pursuit of finishing top and then losing players before we get into the play offs.

Our next must win game is not tomorrow but the 1st play off game we play. Hub cap is a great achievement but in the bigger picture it means very little and that for me weakness Rugby League. We need a new structure that rewards finishing top.

in recent threads people have talked about leeds being happy to finish in the 5-8 slots and take the easier 1st round while the top 4 beat each other up.
well the way things are going tonight, they are putting real pressure on catalans, and the way they scrapped for the win last week, shows that they really do want a top 4 place.
i think that shows the power of momentum, and coming into the play-offs in form. last season we dipped after the cup final and so hit the play-offs in poor shape.
this year i want us to finish top by winning all of the remaining fixtures.
momentum and confidence is going to be key for us, so lets keep the pressure on and take the LLS

didnt we lose to saints warrington and leeds at the end of the 2010 season/beginning of the play offs.

We definitely lost to Saints and Warrington in June/July and also to Huddersfield in August(?) (when Mason stamped on Fielden's ankle!). All at the DW. Then lost to Leeds in first round of play offs.

Amazing that we were unbeaten away all season in 2010 apart from Bradford (when we were 20 points up at half time) and Leeds in the CC.

If we get all our stars back, especially Tommy and Pat, and the pack plays like it was playing in May/June, we will get to Old Trafford.