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| Quote: DaveO "Wane has to take some of the blame for the fact he just has not dealt with the loss of Tommy properly at all.
Lockers is not a #6 and this has been said so many times and it also removes the best #13 in the league from his rightful position.
The debate about moving Sam to #6 has been done to death but it need not have come to that. All he had to do was recall Mellor form Widnes and that would have meant zero positional changes.
I have no idea what the reasoning is behind not recalling a number 7 when our number 7 is out injured but Wane needs to learn from this in the way he hopefully learned from making too many changes v Windes earlier in the season. He should have realised by now Lockers isn't a six and it was naive of him to think we could go into a cup semi final with the team this out of shape and a make shift stand off. Beating Wakey with a team made up like this is no indication of how they will fare in a cup semi-final.'"
O'Loughlin was one of our few good performers today and looked very good at stand off. Admittedly his presence in the middle may not have helped when chasing the game as the team obviously looks much better with three pivots instead of two; however his performance today was actually quite good, just like against Wakefield and he's shown that when purely looking at the halves (i.e not taking his loss at 13 into account) he's by far the best player to use as a stand in.
However, when you do take into account what we lose at 13 it's not been ideal.
With O'Loughlin at 6 we also need our strongest pack out for most of the game which means Farrell at loose forward from the start.
Now that Matty Smith is here though it's all largely irrelevant.
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| Quote: Fames "Can you check on the replay whether the 2nd Leeds man (Ablett?) running up towards Sam was actually onside at the kick? I think he may have encroached within the 10 when Sam dropped the ball. Hall was definitely onside, and although Ablett(?) didn't touch the ball he could have been given offside - admittedly this would be very harsh, but the same thing happened in a game last year ( Catalans play off?) and the try was ruled out by the VR.'"
Looking at it now i think Ablett is just ok, it's close, but just onside, he does run very hard after the kick to put the pressure on Tomkins. Would be harsh, but Warrington got one disallowed against Leeds at Headingley this year for the same thing and Australia too against England in the 4 Nations Final so going by them it would of been disallowed if offside but he just stayed on.
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| Thanks for confirming - it would have been yet another "bad decision".
In the final analogy, though, Leeds were the better team and deserved to win. Just can't get over how lethargic/lacking in energy so many of the Wigan pack were: Lima, Mossop, MM, Hansen, Tuson. Only Hock, Flower and Farrell were conspicuous when going forward.
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| Quote: Fames "Thanks for confirming - it would have been yet another "bad decision".
In the final analogy, though, Leeds were the better team and deserved to win. Just can't get over how lethargic/lacking in energy so many of the Wigan pack were
Lima was understandably lacking match fitness and the same probably goes for Tuson and Hansen who missed a few weeks. McIlorum didn't seem to be fully fit while Mossop has been the cornerstone of the Wigan pack in Lima's absence, had played the midweek Exiles game and then had to lead a weakened Wigan pack without getting much of a rest. With other players in the pack not offering much go forward it doesn't surprise me that Mossop also struggled.
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| I think the start just rattled them and in turn got Leeds' tails up, if Sinfield put's in 2 poor kicks instead in those opening 6 minutes then no scores, no pressure, no concern. It's not a position Wigan have found themselves in much if at all over the last 3 seasons to be 16-0 down early on, it's usually the other way round, so must of come to a bit of a shock to the system for the players and it can't help if you've never been in that scenerio before to know how to cope, although they did give it a good shot, after the first 12 mins Wigan actually outscored Leeds 28-23. As i've witnessed at Leeds a few times over the last 18 months, when the match isn't going your way some forwards don't seem as keen to put their hand up and change that, when it is going well everyone seems to want the ball (view the praise the likes of Kirke & Griffin are getting on the Leeds board atm), strange but how it goes sometimes.
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| Leeds did what they set out to do, Wigan didn't. Maybe money pressure, injury pressure and expectation to win got to a lot of players, whereas Leeds got on with the job at hand. Wane should look at resting a few players for the big push. Gelling should be dropped, watch a replay of him from May and compare him to how he's playing now, he's not improved one bit. Faz has got to learn how to commit a fullback and learn how to pass, he looks th epart at loose forward. Sam needs to go to the Stevie Hampson school of bomb defusal. Matty Smith could not have come at a better time, thank the Lord!
Lets applaud Leeds and move on.
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