This

....and Lima when he first came..... he looks decent to me, just give him time. You think people on here would learn to reserve judgement rather than jump in and criticise after a just a few games.

Gelling is a work in progress, given his chance soone r than Wane would have expected IMO.

Has potential to be the next Pat, great in the air, but faster on the pitch. Hence the reason why Shuds were blocking him in the air.

For now he is being let down by his positional play and fitness, both of which can be coached or adressed.

Just look at his meters this season and also remember Pats first season, when he was coming over as SOO and grand finalist, so way in advance in development that Gelling is.


Stick with and not chop Gelling as this will screw his confidence. We didnt need the 5 or so tries he has fluffed, but all of which will make him more determined to succeed.

He filled in for Carmont when he was injured at then beginning of the season but he also filled in for Goulding last week.

IMO Gellng needs a couple of weeks in the 20s, I agree that shifting Goulding to the left wing would be too disruptive overall, especially as the Goulding/Charnley partnership on the right is flourishing. Lenegan could do with getting Offiah and Robinson down to the training ground to have a word with Gelling about backing himself a bit better. I do think he will come good, but atm he is making too many erros and his positioning is woeful. Seems to be trying too hard as well which is making things worse, needs 2 or 3 weeks out of the limelight and we can see how Ryan King gets on.

Move the in-form centre of the club and possible the whole league.

Let's reward him and his wing partner by moving him and separating them.

I'd be happier with King or Murphy (or even Joe Burgess) on the wing instead of Gelling. I can honestly say I've never in my life seen a winger in Super League look as lost as Gelling does on the wing. He hasn't got a clue where to stand!

When he returns the ball he's fantastic, he's strong in the air and he's very good with ball in hand until he sees space and then he hasn't a clue what to do. That's not all you need from a winger though.

He's been woefully out of position in attack on many occasions and if he is going to continue on the wing he should be playing on the wing for the under 20's. I have a feeling they have a break coming up soon for the 9's so Gelling's job in the coming weeks should be to win us the 9's tournament.

A question what bilko might know how many tries has Goulding put Charnley in for this season?

From my memory Sam has put him in for more

Including last night Goulding has 7 try assists. This obviously also does not take into account the times when Goulding has passed to say Sam against Hull KR or Sean O'Loughlin against Leeds (always remember that great run around) who then passed to Charnley. As a comparison Gleeson had 4 try assists for the entire season when Goulding scored 25 tries.

He needs some time in the reserves to work on his handling and positioning, that's for sure. Yes, I agree he does a lot of good work making the hard yards out of defence, but that's not a winger's main role - if that was all we wanted, might as well put a second rower out there. Those three errors he made in attack didn't matter against Hudds, but could well have against better teams, and he's averaging that number of errors per match. He was also at least partly to blame for their try down that side, coming in with a pretty ineffectual effort on their centre.

He's got massive potential, but needs a lot more work still.

I'd take him out of the fire for a couple of weeks now. He's had a promising start and just looks to be losing a little confidence in playing a position thats just not him. I remember reading on the NZ Warriors website they didn't really feel he was a centre last year and that he was more of a second row so for us to be playing him on the wing probably sums up a few issues he's having.

Ryan King should play at the magic weekend. He's a cracking young talent and a natural wingman and playing alongside Carmont will really help his development. If we get him in and he does well the squad depth will grow again and we'll have an extra option.

My point in that is how can moving Goulding disrupt the team?

Only trouble is - Both were given a chance early in the season, and King showed that, whilst he has great attacking moves, his defence is atrocious.

Gelling works harder FOR THE TEAM, makes more hard yards, tackles more and is generally a better fit than King right now IMO.

As harsh as it may seem, King is still at the phase where he could go either way - Martin Offiah or Kevin Penny. (Bit extreme, I know, but you get the gist).

Gelling has a far more solid all around game and has been seen to make a MASSIVE number of metres, which helps the team immensely even if he, himself, doesn't score.

Yes, he needs to learn where George is likely to put the ball (although 50% of that is down to Geaorge, to learn where his new winger NEEDS the ball), and he needs to figure out exactly when to go and when to offload. That will only come with time and practise though.

I believe we should use the loan system for King. Worked wonders for Charnley and Goulding.