Get behind the lad, still fairly new to how the first team play and he is going to make mistakes. The last thing he needs is fans getting on his back that will do sweet FA for his confidence.

this is going to sounds arrogant but in another team where fewer chances were made for him he wouldnt stand out out as much as he wouldnt be given so many try scoring opportunities to fluff up.

I mentioned his indecisiveness near the line, early on in this thread a couple of weeks ago after the Hull KR game. He looks a bit like a rabbit in the headlights at times. Like you say good go forward and he runs it in hard when helping out the forwards but the amount of errors (and basic ones at that) are mounting, especially after the 6 last week in the cup as well.

He needs to work on a lot of things at the moment to make him a more solid and reliable player - As I mentioned earlier in the thread I hope King gets some game time while Pat is out.

He's great under the high ball. Hudds knew this and gave away a penalty and a try in their urgency to prevent him challenging for the bomb on their line. Other than that though...

Doesn't sound arrogant, just no one can understand what you wrote :s

Look, im a saints fan and would swap him for any of our three quarters in a heart beat

hahaha fair point. i feel he would make fewer errors in a team that was less prolific than wigan as he would have fewer try scoring opportunities to ruin/screw up, and would therefore look alot better than he currently appears as i agree with what others have mentioned in that all other aspects of his game are solid to good. hopefully that conveys what i meant first time round

He stands out not for how he takes (or doesn't take) his scoring chances but the work he does running the ball out and the yards he makes. He shows just how rubbish Karl Pryce was for us. Pryce got plenty of support on this board from some people. Pryce scored tries handed to him on a plate but did naff all elsewhere.

Despite fluffing a few chances he has also scored a few that took some scoring and has given a few choice passes as well.

No problem with King being given a shot but Gelling doesn't deserve to be dropped as opposed to rotated for King. There is a difference.

cant disagree with any of that.

yes it does pal!!!!

He's awful, handling, positioning, ability to back himself, not wigan standard and shocked to hear that from others.

He will cost us a game at some point, even Wane expressed his thoughts about him luck very on tv during the latest match

Watch the replay of the game and see what Wane says (shouts) about him towards the end of the first half. You don't need to be much of a lip-reader



I agree that there's a player in there though. He's like a fish out of water on the wing at the moment but he looks to have a bit about him, if he's willing to learn how to play wing effective he could be destructive.