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| This is to the original poster.. Where have you been over the years.. The songs we sing have always had these words. .. I have a 9yr old who has watched Wigan home n away from 3 weeks.. She knows the words are swearing but sings her own words instead.. As she knows she isn't allowed to say them... I don't like them much myself but am not going to complain about the odd word..all you need to do is tell your kids they will hear naughty words and should ignore them.. Worked for my daughter.
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| Quote EastStandFaithful="EastStandFaithful"From what I saw at the game I think we were very close to seeing quite ugly scenes. We had a few Wigan fans provoking Saints fans and a couple of Saints fans being escorted off after the match. I saw lots of aggressive behaviour between the sets of fans and I am concerned we are close to a situation with Saints were each game could get quite ugly between the fans.
That to me would be a real shame as I think over the years the derby games have been conducted in an intense but friendly way.'"
I think your right although i can only tell it as i saw it from my seat in the East stand - i was very close to the bunch of Saints fans that were stood up at the back of the East stand.
Before the game started there was some banter but nothing too bad, all that changed once the first try had been scored. A number of Saints fans at the back were pretending to hang themselves and were clearly directing this towards the Wigan fans who were also in the East - to me this was far worse than any of the swearing that has been mentioned. The 'hanging' gestures clearly incensed the Wigan fans that saw it including myself, how this did not turn into a far more serious situation i will not know but i have little doubt that things will get worse before they get better.
There was a couple of Wigan supporters in front of me that were taking pictures of the Saints crowd when this was happening although i have no idea where these pictures will end up.
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| Quote dany1979="dany1979"I think your right although i can only tell it as i saw it from my seat in the East stand - i was very close to the bunch of Saints fans that were stood up at the back of the East stand.
Before the game started there was some banter but nothing too bad, all that changed once the first try had been scored. A number of Saints fans at the back were pretending to hang themselves and were clearly directing this towards the Wigan fans who were also in the East - to me this was far worse than any of the swearing that has been mentioned. The 'hanging' gestures clearly incensed the Wigan fans that saw it including myself, how this did not turn into a far more serious situation i will not know but i have little doubt that things will get worse before they get better.
There was a couple of Wigan supporters in front of me that were taking pictures of the Saints crowd when this was happening although i have no idea where these pictures will end up.'"
Dany1979 yes I agree with your version of events. The Wigan fan who got turfed out was equally as provocative though as anything the Saints fans did. My point is that bad behaviour and language by both sets of fans will escalate if not nipped in the bud.
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| Just a foot note to my first post... As a parent if I thought someone was going to far with either swearing or aggression .. I WOULD TELL THEM.. and anyone who knows me will tell you .. I have done.. But I'm realistic enough to know you will NEVER erradicate swearing or aggressive banter ... We are going to watch two teams go to battle .. Not a garden party at Buckingham Palace.. Lets get some perspective here .. It's not constant swearing and half the time you can't make out the words. The bigger deal you make of it the worse some will become.. Because some idiots will take matters into their own hands. If you are offended .. Move or if not possible ask them to tone it down..
As for the idiot sts fans pretending to hang themselves.. Was that a disgusting dig at Terry Newton? The same morons who booed his minutes silence
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| Quote tedglen="tedglen"The use of Foul language at Wigan RL has been around for as long as I've been going to watch them (45 years!)
I agree that such language shouldn't be used where Women and Children are present, and when I took my (then) young kids to Central Park, if I was uncomfortable with what I was hearing around me, then I used to move to another part of the ground.
The problem with the DW, being all-seater and designated seats, that isn't possible.
Perhaps the introduction of a "Family Enclosure block" could be considered as an option next season?
In my opinion, the noise of chanting obsenities from a distance is much more tolerable then that same thing being yelled from within a few feet of your lug-hole.
My 2 cents worth'"
so have racist chants until a few years ago.
but times have changed
theres a warning given out over the speakers before every game...simple....do as it asks...dont use obscene or racist language and it'll be fine
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| Quote elliegg="elliegg"Just a foot note to my first post... As a parent if I thought someone was going to far with either swearing or aggression .. I WOULD TELL THEM.. and anyone who knows me will tell you .. I have done.. But I'm realistic enough to know you will NEVER erradicate swearing or aggressive banter ... We are going to watch two teams go to battle .. Not a garden party at Buckingham Palace.. Lets get some perspective here .. It's not constant swearing and half the time you can't make out the words. The bigger deal you make of it the worse some will become.. Because some idiots will take matters into their own hands. If you are offended .. Move or if not possible ask them to tone it down..
=#FF0000As for the idiot sts fans pretending to hang themselves.. Was that a disgusting dig at Terry Newton? The same morons who booed his minutes silence'"
If this is true, whoever took the pictures should post them on here and hopefully other saints fans will name and shame them. Disgusting. Why are we even talking about swearing when saints fans were doing that? Certainly puts it into perspective.
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| Wigan pie man .. Swearing isn't aimed at a person because of the colour of their skin.. Racism and swearing are a completely separate issue and should not be compared.
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| Why's this issue only just arrived? It happens every game. Why dont people speak up about the Warrington chant? Or the Lockers chant? Or the I want to go home chant?
I could go on, but this is a pathetic thread
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| Hmmmm. Unsure how I feel about this:
He's only a poor little scouser...
Referees a Wank..
Build a Bonfire
Wigan Road...F... the Latics
W**ky Warrington
..Cos I'm a Yorks**e Bas****
and on and on it goes.................
I've taken my kids to games since they were babies, they know just because it's sang at rugby doesn't make it OK at home or in the playground.
The only reason the chant on Saturday is getting so much attention is because it was sang so loud by so many and for so long.
Nice if you could all change the word, but c'est la vie.
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No. Still baffled.
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| The stewards asked for restraint. This was followed by an announcement by the stadium over the tannoy. Those of you who are struggling to understand the issue are clearly the ones who disrespect authority. I don't care how many times bad language has been used previously it doesn't make it right.
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