A good bench mark in this type of argument is:

Would you swear at your kids at home (the f word)?

If you don't because you don't want to set a bad example, yet swear at a rugby ground in front of other kids, it seems a bit hypocritical.

Just because there has been swearing in the past doesn't make it right. There were genuine complaints yesterday and the stewards calmly asked people to cut out the bad language. Don't be surprised if they decide to start ejecting people in future.

cant wait for Hull to visit next year, the north stand will be empty before half time.....lol

get a grip...

What has being a woman got to do with liking/disliking swear words??

Also, there is a time and a place. Rugby matches are not just for kids, kids just happen to be there. Now if somebody went to the Wacky Warehouse or a kid's party and started throwing about swear words and chanting songs with swear words in, then yes I would agree. Kids WILL hear swear words all over the place, whether it's in songs, on the T.V., in the playground, at home, walking down the street etc. Infact, most kids swear when they're with their friends and just don't swear infront of their parents or families. I certainly did, as did many of the people at my primary school and high school. The argument about there being a high percentage of women there, and women not liking swear words and a woman should not hear a swear word... That's absolute rubbish. Are we now in the 1920's???

I have to say I agree with the original post. I don't like the F word in our songs when my 7 year old is there. He's never heard it from me and neither has my wife etc. it's about personal values and mine are such that I don't swear in front of kids and women. I'm not saying my values ar right or anybody else's are wrong but that's the way I am and I hope my son grows up with the same level of respect for others.

I think the point the O/P was trying to make was why make up a chant that is offensive?

Some chants that have been around forever such as "the referee's a w****r" probably offend very few people despite the bad language.

I am guessing the O/P ignores things like "the referee's a w****r" and isn't offended by them but took exception to the chant in question and that is fair enough if he thought a line had been crossed.

Whether the club would react and do anything is hard to say. They would [ihave[/i to react to racist chanting and people would expect them to. If some new chant was offensive (as opposed to racist) so over stepped the mark and the club did react people could not complain given the rules. So I think anyone who thinks they can make up chants chock full of expletives and it will be ignored because swearing is part of the game might be surprised.

Not a problem with that at all. How do the stewards choose which to eject and which ones not to? There must have been a few thousand singing that song yesterday?

I never swear infront of my parents or family, and I certainly don't walk round the streets swearing at people. Sometimes I swear when watching football and rugby, sometimes I swear when I am talking with friends, and I do join in with the chants at the rugby which have swear words in. But by your logic, this means I don't have respect for others.

People pay their money to go to the match, and can say what they like. Obviously I don't agree with racism or violence. But it's freedom of speech at the end of the day, and it's just a different choice of language.

Its difficult I agree but they may decide to select a few to set an example.

Most of the best songs do not contain any offensive language and so I maintain that creating new ones with swear words is not needed especially when it offends some people. The 5 in a row song would still be as effective without the f word.