Hock didn't aim the ball at the kid though did he.. Some are trying to make it appear that he did...which is unfair.

I didn't say he did aim it but the ball shouldn't be thrown into the crowd by anyone! if that had hit your child in the face thrown from a Saints player you wouldn't have been annoyed?

Of course, that goes without saying... Point being made was that it was not aimed at a child deliberately.

If it was deliberate it was a good shot! obviously it wasn't but I can see why so many Saints fans are annoyed but some of the abuse is pathetic.

I think it needs to be stopped though I was at a game a few years ago and a ball hit an old woman in the face. Plenty more ways to celebrate and rub it in than that.

In my opinion you have a chance of being hit by the ball at all games.. From kicks etc . If it hit my daughter I would be upset if it hurt her but I wouldn't want the player taking out and shot.. Or even banned.

In recent years after a Saints v Wigan game I've been able to have a chat with some Saints fans about the game without being verbally abused, but not yesterday. Me and my mate were talking amongst ourselves saying "Our defence won us that game" When two braindead saints fans start coming up to us and screaming "Bentham won you that game you scum" Luckily they were braindead so we soon quietened them down and won the argument but it seems to me that recently they are just so bitter and twisted.

not complaining though, it is absolutely hilarious at times.

Yeah, right.

The St Helens school of invention runs on.

There were several Saints fans (women I might add) showing two fingered gentures at us as we went past the South stand after the game. Quite unnecessary. Other than that I didn't feel threatened as much as i did after the play-off game at the DW last year when a grown woman threatened my son and physically pushed him around. I hope these are just isolated incidents and not a sign of the times. It would be sad to let the intense rivalry spill off the pitch. Its just a game after all.

Was going to post something similar, what suprised me yesterday is that it was not the usual drunk teenagers here but women and even elderly people hurling abuse at wigan supporters - ive never seen that before!

Having said that i met a number of good Saints supporters who told us how they felt ashamed at some of the behaviour of their fellow 'fans'.

There's nothing more disappointing for ordinary people than when Bibilical Easter prophecies don't come true. The full beatification of Saint Kieron can only happen when he masterminds a Good Friday annihilation of Wigan. Now they have to wait at least another year.

Oooooh I love a bit of Bible at Easter