That is exactly how I saw it too. I think Kris has really let himself down over this.

well like I say, I wasn't there so cant comment on what was said but either way he has been on twitter saying



will be interesting to hear his view on the matter.

"And also, the players will be back into the SSB at the next home game"

Interesting point was that when this was announced yesterday. I didn't pick up many 'poor Kris' feelings from the people in the bar.
They did announce that players would be down BEFORE the match next time out, and they would play it by ear as to what happens afterwards.

I too think that KR was being a bit 'precious', had forgotten who was paying his wages, and should remember that if you want to put yourself out as a spokesman - as well taking the plaudits and praise, you have to accept the brickbats and hurt that people feel.

I agree with Pie-Eyed and Miggy. Like them, I was there last week. Yes, some people should be more measured and not panic after a loss like that, but yes, Kris did invite questions and therefore should have been prepared for OTT moaning from some people. He's been at Wigan all his life, he knows how some people get when we lose. Most fans last week were very suportive, applauded Kris and Jeff for their determination that the team would be better than that in future, and I heard people thank Kris for coming in as he left.

Kris has been naive and a bit precious and frankly has created an issue unnecessarily by banning any player presence last night. He should have got Gerry to issue a friendly warning and sent a player in with one of the other two people whose role will include SS bar appearances this year, Andy Coley or Paul Deacon, just to cool things off. In fact, if Kris is going to be on the defensive so much maybe it would be better if he let one of the other two do it for a few weeks.

I adore Kris Rads but that doesn't mean he can do no wrong. Talk about a storm in a teacup!

I was there also and agree with you, there was no personal abuse whilst he was on the stage just a couple of questions "which were invited" from people who quite rightly were disappointed,I bet there was a lot worse said in the dressing room.
I can only "guess" that something else was said off stage.
Pity no one came in last night they would have got a great welcome.
Communication breakdown come on Wigan sort it and lets get back on track.

How was the SS bar on Saturday?

Fine until we were told that no player was coming in, then VERY empty, VERY quickly.

As soon as Kris said he would take any questions from the floor I though that he was asking for trouble. Unless he got extra grief when he walking off stage then it does seem like an over reaction. The questions asked were reasonable, but a bit of an over reaction on the fans part (certainly nowhere near as bad as the stuff on here). I think KR has to mark it down to experience. He's a very confident and articulate public speaker who wears his heart on his sleeve, but facing a 'hostile' audience is something you can only learn by actually doing it. It does seem that he's punishing the vast majority of us because he put himself in a situation that he absolutely didn't need to.

I've emailed the club with my comments about this:
[iI'm contacting you about the South Stand bar after home games, and asking why Kris and a player are not coming into the bar any more as they did last season. I am aware that some people who were in there after the first home game may have been bit over the top in their treatment of Kris when he said he'd answer questions, however I don't see this as a reason to stop him and a player coming in after games. There are many people who go into the bar after games, particularly youngsters who love to get autographs and photos with players and they will be very disappointed not to be able to do this any more. A minority should not be allowed to spoil things for the majority, that isn't fair.
Also, there is usually a fair amount raised by the Riversiders raffle in the bar after games, which may be considerably reduced if people stop going in because there is no incentive to go in if no players are there. That will affect the Academy, which is a shame as the money raised in the SS Bar helps them.
Please don't let the actions of a small minority of fans spoil things for the majority, we all want the best for the club and we turn up in numbers to support you every week[/i.

I'll post the reply here when I get it.