Thought Tim played really well at times last night particularly in 2nd half, some lovely handling and if you want to show a youngster the correct way to pass a football ,show them the ones to Isaac John for their first try and then the one for Richie Mathers try , ball presented to receiver at good angle and speed ,throw in the pass changes the angle of attack and you'll have a troubled defence- very good technically

and as for his try cant remember him running at a defence too often at Wigan but Classy footwork

had a quick chat with him after the game - said it got better as it went along , there is less pressure than at Wigan but he's older now so its up to him to be more consistent and handle the expectation

Different lad than a couple of years ago -which is good all round- hope he does well

Thats an excellent point, the stand off position in the last 15 years has seen many a player come and go and never really impress me apart from Trent Barrett. Nigel Wright, Danny Orr, Matty Johns, Henry Paul, Jules O'Neill, Greg Florimo. All came for big money and promise but never really delivered.

Tim Smith is the best passer of the ball in super league IMO. He just can't defend.

Smith can't run, can't tackle and can't even dance a little.

come on we all know that lockers is the best passer of a ball in superleague, Phil clarke told us and stupid he aint.



seriously though Tim Smith was by far the worst NRL player I have ever seen while playing for Ricky Stuarts Cronulla in 2010. it was an awful side but he was Simply dreadful. His decision making is shocking so it makes no difference how good you can chuck the thing when you dont know what to do with it.

He was dreadful for the first hour or so...knock ons, forward passes, lazy defending...then perked up a bit for the last 20 minutes against a tiring Widnes defence.

Henry Paul never really impressed you?

Was he was probably out of that list the best but was a better player at Bradford. Am not saying the players are below par, just didnt seem to perform in a Wigan shirt.

I don't believe for one second he was a better player at Bradford, he was the most elusive stand off at Wigan I've seen, the only thing he had different at Bradford was his goal kicking. He'd lost a bit of his pace by the time he got to Bradford.

Henry Paul was a great player imo. Great balance with the ball in hand. In fact only since Sam Tomkins has come into the side have we seen someone who made attacking with ball in hand look so effortless.

A little known fact is he also came over as a potential goal kicker.

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