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| Firstly I do not think the forming of an RU club is anywhere near the thinking of IL or anyone at Wigan. There is a Wigan RU and they show there is little support for the sport in Wigan. Certainly not enough for a top level club.
Secondly I think it is highly unlikely a single unified code of rugby will ever happen. The major barrier to this is the RFU and the commercial success of the RU international scene. For the codes to ever merge it would require the fans to be happy to stick with it on both sides of the divide. This would mean that neither code would have to see very much change to the rules and patterns of the games by switching from RL/RU to hybrid rugby. Fans of both codes like the elements of their own code that make it distinct. They would have to be pretty much similar in the first place to allow a merged code to work. Anyway getting back to my point about the RFU and international RU. Many of the changes to the rules after the forming of the NU in 1895 came about in order to improve the game as a spectacle. All clubs in NU were now paying money to players and had to earn that money. To do this they had to attract and keep spectators and numbers were falling. Reducing player numbers, abolishing lineouts and rucking and mauling and reducing points values of goals all made for a more attractive spectacle to attract spectators (and money). NU(RL) had no international aspect originally and has always been club focused so clubs' motivation to alter and improve the spectacle made it happen. RU is and has always been international focused as all clubs were amateur and so essentially were just mates playing and feeding into national sides. Since becoming pro (putting aside shamateurism) the RU clubs have faced and still face those same pressures that the NU clubs did 116 years ago. They may (already or in the near future) want to develop a more attractive spectacle to get more fans through the gate. To achieve this they may wish to alter the rules to get rid of some of the elements that are untidy such as contested scrums or to alter the scoring system to produce more emphasis on tries as NU(RL) did. However the RFU would have the say on this, international RU [iis[/i popular and internationals already have very large crowds. The RFU make the money they need and so will say that they do not need to change the rules as many people will watch it as it is. The RFU do not need a more appealing spectacle so won't change the rules and the codes will stay very different. The rules of both will remain too different to be easily synchronised. So RL and RU fans alike would bemoan the loss of features of their code and any new additions to rules too. They would not support it and it would wither
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| Quote: WIld Goose "I don't think the Union lot are ready for the Brigantes calling in for coffee and cakes in Bath just yet!'"
Agreed, and this really made me giggle..... ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| How would the brigantes go down at Twickers during a Rah Rah international ?
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| Quote: DaveO "The current scrums are not the same as a tap penalty because half of both teams are all collected around the scrum and that makes them worth retaining in their current form IMO.
If you sort the scrums out you slow the game down and get an increase in penalties and it slows it down in Union by rl]a lotrl]. Contested scrums as in RU take a long time to set in the first place to try and make them safe and there are lots of infringements and not just technical ones but ones where the ref blows up because of safety issues.
Scrums get collapsed and often they will get wheeled around. If one side is superior at scrummaging then you see much more of this along with things like one of the forwards pop up because he doesn't like the pasting he is getting in the scrum which also can result in a penalty and so on. The whole thing can take several minutes and just reduces the time the ball is in play considerably. The setting, re-setting and high penalty count is all a consequence of the power and fitness of the players today and trying to balance that with safety.
I think the only thing you could do in RL is feed the ball in down the middle and allow the hookers to strike for it but have the forwards not push and so just hold the scrum steady. I am not sure its worth the bother since we seem to have evolved our game to actually want the team with the feed to get possession.'"
That is what I was on about Dave..if we want the team feeding to get the ball to speed things up..then as I said before just award a tap penalty.
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| Quote: Pie minister "How would the brigantes go down at Twickers during a Rah Rah international ?'"
Badly. ![Twisted Evil icon_twisted.gif](images/smilies//icon_twisted.gif)
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| There's one glaring fault with the idea of a hybrid game, Union can call the shots, they can adapt their game to make it more entertaining and say join us or take the high road.
Can you really see the RFL having any negotiating power if high level talks took place, we've already seen with Sam how Wigan and the governing body have to put a positive spin on something that seemed absolutely inconceivable only a few weeks back.
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