Ben Flower said "When you talk to people about Wigan they recognise them as the number one side and I am really looking forward to putting on the Cherry and White shirt."

That's what you want to hear!

No, is it yours?

The point was they were being completely honest in that those [iare[/i their ambitions and they do not see 2012 as a "take one step back to go forward" season as some people are suggesting but with the players we have lost and given those we have recruited, it will be hard to deliver on what they say. I think that is being completely realistic.

I think it's always going to be hard to deliver one trophy a season, or at least one Cup Final appearance a season, regardless of who your personnel are. But I don't see any harm in a chairman and head coach being open that this is their ambition.

Neither do I but if you are going to say that you need to have the squad to do it otherwise the words are empty and I do not think they are intended to be. IL has not just said he wants a final appearance a season but that the plan is to improve in team performance year on year with 2012 being no different and there is not supposed to be a step back.

I think we are all realistic enough to realise with two knock out competitions anything can happen so nothing is guaranteed in terms of finals despite the stated ambition. However given who has left and the recruitment I think it will be tough to maintain the year on year improvement and do what Wane has said he wants which is be more consistent winning the games we drew etc never mind getting to a final.

I hope not but i think the team will not be as good next season