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lets get sensible,the lad is off to RU can anyone blame him.the money he will be on will set him up for life.hope he thanks wigan for giving him his first chance.

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Quote: Deano G "Can you just explain how a deal between Harris and Leeds relating to what would happen if he returned to SL and him signing for Bradford instead of Leeds is relevant to the situation here, which involves a player leaving SL. '"


I think its relevant on the basis that you shouldn't underestimate a court's willingness to treat reasonably highly-paid sports stars somewhat differently to your average punter. Chris Caisley (a lawyer of all things) seriously misread the ability to enforce employment contracts with respect to I Harris. I'm not saying the issue is the same but Caisley obviously thought the court would see the 'deal' between Harris and Leeds as restraint of trade and ignore it. They didn't and it cost a lot more than Leeds would have settled for before the case went to court (not to mention costs).

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



Quote: Stinky Turner "I think its relevant on the basis that you shouldn't underestimate a court's willingness to treat reasonably highly-paid sports stars somewhat differently to your average punter. Chris Caisley (a lawyer of all things) seriously misread the ability to enforce employment contracts with respect to I Harris. I'm not saying the issue is the same but Caisley obviously thought the court would see the 'deal' between Harris and Leeds as restraint of trade and ignore it. They didn't and it cost a lot more than Leeds would have settled for before the case went to court (not to mention costs).'"


It's not relevant at all. There is clearly no restraint of trade involved in a player agreeing to give first refusal to a club in the event he wants to return to SL in return for that club agreeing to release him to join an RU club. If that's what Caisley thought then it's no wonder the court didn't agree! icon_lol.gif

I'm not sure what you mean by a court's willingness to treat sports stars differently. The rules on damages aren't differently applied for sports stars than for other people.

In the event that there is a breach of contract and the innocent party doesn't suffer any loss they only get nominal damages (say £1 or £10).

If they suffer loss that is caused by the breach then they get compensated for that loss.

Clauses in contracts that try to allow a party to recover more than their real losses in the event of breach are usually struck down by the courts as being void penalty clauses. They have to be a reasonable pre-estimate of loss. The courts are not keen on people over-recovering on their losses, and the fact that the party in breach is say a premiership footballer doesn't mean the courts will turn a blind eye to a penalty clause.

I understand the desire for Wigan to get more compensation (it would be great if we could) but I've been saying all along that the club is in a weak position and the press reports seem now to bear out that IL is aware of this.

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Quote: Deano G "It's not relevant at all. There is clearly no restraint of trade involved in a player agreeing to give first refusal to a club in the event he wants to return to SL in return for that club agreeing to release him to join an RU club. If that's what Caisley thought then it's no wonder the court didn't agree!
All very interesting but it does rather suggest that you didn't actually read what DaveO was actually responding to before having a go at his comment. My response was copy and pasted from BrisbaneRhino's post DaveO quoted.

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Quote: DaveO "It's not a new suggestion that Wigan are tight on the cap because of contractual increments awarded to players on long term deals.'"

I would say it's almost a certainty that is the case. Saints fans used to get frustrated when we didnt replace 1st team players like for like each year but if your bringing kids through and they are successful like for like replacements is near impossible

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



Quote: Stinky Turner "All very interesting but it does rather suggest that you didn't actually read what DaveO was actually responding to before having a go at his comment. My response was copy and pasted from BrisbaneRhino's post DaveO quoted.'"


Eh? I was responding to the comment you posted, not Dave's. You may have copied and pasted PART of the text of your post from a BrisbaneRhino post that Dave also quoted (though without amendment) but it was still your post that I was responding to (and you seem to have added the assertion that the Harris case was "relevant"icon_wink.gif.

Having said that, it doesn't matter who said that it is relevant, because it isn't. icon_lol.gif

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