I think Wane will be a good coach, maybe a great one. He must've learnt a lot from Madge and he was probably doing most of it once it was announced Madge was leaving. But probably not in his first year - so no moaning if we don't do the double next year (or treble? if you count hubcap). As for Harris, he'll do a few years then leave to be head coach somewhere else. Maybe Deacs will then step into Assistant? Who knows.

Commitment and top 4 will do me next year.

Exactly my point. Its a ridiculous thought!

I hope Wane does a god job. I don't think you should give him a break just because of who he is - but he deserves a bit of patience given the likely changes in your squad from this year to next. If you lose Tomkins and Hoffman and Deaccon, you've lost a strike player and two very experienced pros. Not easy to replace at all - not impossible but it'll take time.

I dont have a problem with Harris, I would have prefered Lammie but i think Harris did a decent job under difficult conditions at Crusaders. Ithink Wane will do a good job but all we can do is give them both a chance and see what happens.

Since when has being a former top quality player been a guarantee of being a top coach? Never.

Ditto being an ex SL coach. Do you want Agar or Millward here?

As to being an International coach, he is coach of Wales FFS.

The only thing that is ridiculous is the suggestion that Harris CV is as impressive as you make out. Talk about over stating the case