I already have admitted they had some greats in their team. I'm just comparing it to the quality of today where even if you have a 'great' team you face much stiffer competition who could turn you over on any given day.

So why, as a supporter, should you be d going to any of the 27 league fixtures, when you know they are pretty much worthless??

Reading some of these threads it seems some teams aren't even giving 100% most of the time, so why should anybody be bothered watching these matches?

Would have respected the thread more if it had been started before tonight, and you wouldn't have moaned if you would have won it from third a few years ago.

Having said that, more credit should be given for finishing higher, and I think the higher placed club should always have the home advantage. And the previous top six system was much better, where at least one of the top two clubs ends up in the final.

If Leeds win the GF they have lost 11 games during the regular season !!!

Twice as many as Wire & nearly 3 times as many as Wigan.

The system is the system but come on



There is no fair way other than giving the title to the team who finish top. The only other way that I think gives a bit of an advantage to your final position is to have a round robin play-off system between the top 4 only. Each team has home advantage over the teams who finish below them (top plays all 3 at home, 2nd plays 2 at home & 1 away to the top and so on). Top 2 teams after each plays 3 times goes to Grand Final. The play-offs are here to stay, I just think there has to be a better way. Lets face it how can a team who loses 13 times (Hull & KR) have the right to be crowned as Champions ?

The play offs will and should stay, but they need reducing from the 8, to 6, possibly 5. If they are to stay at 8, the NRL model needs to come in and clubcall be binned.

That's the way the coockie crumbles 'couldn't even make old trafford to defend your title' team.

Everyone knows the goalposts at the start of the season.

What makes you and wire any more deserving than leeds or saints?

If you can't win the pressure games you don't deserve to be champions.

Agreed but come on ? Leeds have lost 11 games this season. Wire & Wigan 5 & 4 respectively. Leeds & Saints have hit form but haven't been as consistent all year have they.

The system is what it is and under that system the right 2 teams are going to the GF but if I were a Wire player/director/coach I would be absolutely gutted and feel as though my "consistent" efforts were a waste of time.

That's just the way the cookie crumbles!

Enjoy your crumbs!

I get what your saying gary, but that's just the way the cookie crumbles and unfortunatly wigan won't be contesting this years grand final despite finishing second in the league ladder

The league is all about getting yourself in a good position for the play-offs. There can be no excuses for us and wire, we got the best two spots but didn't deliver when it really mattered end of. Saints and Leeds both thoroughly deserve to be in the final.