Good player.

"I know the stats exist, I just haven't seen them" Hahahaha, priceless!!! Best laugh I've had in ages on here FTV. Cheers for that.

(BTW I feel the same about aliens, ghosts and Wellens' blistering pace! I know they exist, I just haven't seen them! haha)

Re: the forwards. You're moving the goalposts because we were talking about Wigan forcing Catalans into errors etc. through the brutal defence. You suggested the same applied to the Derby game and then went on to quote metres made....a total irrelevence to what we were discussing (that's even assuming you were better in that stat anyway, which you've admitted you are doing nothing more than guessing at!). Anyway, I truly think this discussion has run it's course. I've said in the past that I regard you as a good poster, so please don't take this the wrong way, but jeez mate, let this one go. It's not one of your better efforts!

The match stats regularly appear on here (rlfans) when people can be fussed to post them. Are you really this dim that you can't differentiate between something that I haven't read and something that doesn't exist?

I haven't read Keith Senior's book, but I'm pretty sure it still exists.

Because in terms of value to their respective teams, I'd say they're about equal, but (and hence the > sign) Puletua slightly shades it; I knew that'd be the one I get picked up on though. Good to see you agree with the rest



I notice no saints fan even offered any player in a like for like against Prescott and Mossop.

M Maguire: You want answers?

R Simmons: I think I'm entitled to them.

MM: You want answers?

RS: I want the truth!

MM: You can't handle the truth! Son, we live in a world that has trophies. And those trophies have to be guarded by men with rugby skills. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Simmons? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Tony Smith and you curse the Wire. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Saints's defeat, while tragic, probably saved banter. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves tries...You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that touchline. You need me on that touchline.
We use words like tackling, leg drive, loyalty...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending trophies. You use 'em as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps in under the blanket of the very rugby I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a rugby ball and play on the field. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!
RS: Did you order the code Saints?

MM: (quietly) I did the job you sent me to do.

RS: Did you order the code Saints?

MM: You're goddamn right I did!!


Sheer plagiarism but only a bit of a laff.

Ouch. Below the belt that FTV!

Just for FTV, and his love of Royce's bench option's.

I thought Tom Armstrong had a brilliant game at the DW.