Never wanted us to lose more in my life - I'd much rather watch a Grand Final that could be a classic between Wigan and Warrington than another disappointing one in which one team is clearly not on a par with the other. This Saints team has done well in finishing third and remaining some what competitive at a time when the club is under going massive transitions, however I feel a Grand Final will do more damage than good to the current team. Of course the unthinkable could happen and we could go all the way, however I every much doubt it.

I think you miss the point. Being somebody's rival imo is so much more than just challenging them for a trophy once or twice. Being a rival is a mutual hatred that is built up over years of battling each other for the same trophies or goals. When the teams fans talk to each other they stick the boot in by referring to past famous victories etc etc

I'm surprised at that to be honest. After all, to Saints fans, RL only began in 1996.