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"I'd hate to be a Widnes fan. Our way of thinking is 'were going to the grand final and were gonna win it'. You lot couldn't care less and you haven't for the past 3 years. What a boring time you lot must have supporting your average rugby club. Still you must be exited becoming the super league whipping boys for the next few years? I hope O'Connor goes bankcrupt and you lot and the RFL are made to look daft. Oh and as for getting past Batley, we'd have hammerd them last week if it hadn't been for the wanky ref. We can and will beat Batley, Sheffield and your shower in a high pressure game, you'll see. Fax vs Leigh final, Fax to win on golden point! Watch this space."
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| Quote: cadoo "I like this idea. It's not just Union, but the NRL also. We've lost Ellis, the three Burgess brothers and James Graham to the NRL with more likely to follow. Some may argue that it is better for our national side, which in the short-term it is, but it weakens our competition because we're losing our best players. We need the strongest players in this competition to drive up the standards and make this competition more competitive. This will be the most benefit to the international side.
I would have a rule where one star 'homegrown' player is exempt from the salary cap. So for exampleSalford could have had 'Richie Myler', Castleford 'Joe Westerman', Harlequins, 'Louie McCarthy Scarsbrook', Bradford, 'Sam Burgess' etc etc.
Encourages clubs to develop their homegrown players. Encourages the homegrown players to stay at their parent clubs and it gives us a better chance of retaining our best players when the NRL or Union come hunting.'"
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People saying Andy Farrell leaving for union wasn't a loss because his playing days are over clearly don't know much about their own legends. Firstly, he would make a brilliant coach/mentor to probably the Wigan team, he has a great knowledge of the game and can pass that on.
Secondly and perhaps more prominently his son Owen is an absolute talent. I have no doubt he would be starting for Wigan next year had Farrell stayed with League and encouraged Owen down that path.
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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp]
[quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp]
[quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp]
[quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp]
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| Quote: BackrowSaint "People saying Andy Farrell leaving for union wasn't a loss because his playing days are over clearly don't know much about their own legends. Firstly, he would make a brilliant coach/mentor to probably the Wigan team, he has a great knowledge of the game and can pass that on.
Secondly and perhaps more prominently his son Owen is an absolute talent. I have no doubt he would be starting for Wigan next year had Farrell stayed with League and encouraged Owen down that path.'"
People saying Andy Farrell leaving for union wasn't a loss because his playing days were over clearly didn't see his last season at prop, which was absolutely phenomenal. He could have carried on at prop for another year or two as the best prop in the comp. The man was a beast.
Yes his best years were behind him and he probably wasn't much faster than Wellens is now, but he could still have done a fantastic job for any side in SL (and indeed England) at prop. |
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Officially RLFAN's most Doe-eyed Happy Clapper.
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The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them.
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If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: Deano G "People saying Andy Farrell leaving for union wasn't a loss because his playing days were over clearly didn't see his last season at prop, which was absolutely phenomenal. He could have carried on at prop for another year or two as the best prop in the comp. The man was a beast.
Yes his best years were behind him and he probably wasn't much faster than Wellens is now, but he could still have done a fantastic job for any side in SL (and indeed England) at prop.'"
I'm sure he said quite early in his career that he did not want to finish up as a prop. I genuinely think he was just finished as a RL player. |
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| Quote: Deano G "People saying Andy Farrell leaving for union wasn't a loss because his playing days were over clearly didn't see his last season at prop, which was absolutely phenomenal. He could have carried on at prop for another year or two as the best prop in the comp. The man was a beast.
Yes his best years were behind him and he probably wasn't much faster than Wellens is now, but he could still have done a fantastic job for any side in SL (and indeed England) at prop.'"
I agree, but I think t'other mon's point was still a good one.
The likes of Edwards, Farrell and Ford have been big losses to RL even since their playing days were long over. All were regarded as intellects of the game during their time in team colours. Since then, they've all gone on to become Union coaches of considerable repute. Meanwhile, we're left with the likes of Kear, Agar and McNamara.
We worry endlessly about where our next crop of quality British coaches is going to come from, and yet there they are - all at the peak of their powers and working at bloody Union clubs. |
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To go back to the pointy from page 1 the problem with allowing each club 1 salary cap excemt player is over half the clubs can't afford to pay up to the cap anyway.
I like the central contract idea, the RFL did it will Rads and KFC at one point. I would Budget for something like a 50k 'loyalty bonus' for a set amount of England internationals, say 20 to be paid by the RFL directly to the player irrespective of their club providing they stay in SL. So for example if Sam was a player selected by the RFL and then transferred to Wakefield he would continue to receive the payment.
Not sure the RFL could afford this though.
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