Woah! What, less obsessed than checking up how many posts someone has done?

Wait, you haven't got men watching my house have you?

If this intrusion is in reference to my suggestion you'd be cack in a debating team I apologise. You'd be awesome in one. In wigan

I think the difference here is that McGuire knocked on realised and tried to kick it to make it look like he was kicking as Tomkins grabs his arms he was probably going to grubber it through Tomkins gets him and he knocks on and still kicks it and tries to con the referee (like anyone would not taking any moral highground here). The fact is that anywhere else on the pitch if that was checked would also not be given as he knocked on trying to kick due to Tomkins doing his job. Its a massive grey area at the minute but I think a little sense has to be applied. If he had done it 20 metres out then fair enough he could claim he was going for a drop goal and the try should have been given but when hes 5 metres out and it would have taken a miracle to get a drop goal from the angle he was at then its clear that was never his intention and there should be no try given.

Dont forget Sam was cheating and should have been penalised for making a tackle! Leave them to it with Cas and Saints. Clearly we are getting everything our way this season. You only have to look at the penalty counts in games and the number of bans given out whilst identical offences are not charged to see its clear the RFL are in our back pockets. After all Super League needs a strong Wigan

Wow no need to be so touchy, was only joking my friend. You are obsessed with Wigan though, as your profile proves, I dont blame you to be honest, after all we are the most decorative, successful club in the world.

The only real issues here are that:

a. Leeds would have won
b. They were playing Wigan
C. It was Danny M's mistake
d. Sam T tackled him

Remove these variables and no one would be discussing it!

Correct, just like if Sam didnt play for Wigan he wouldnt get boo'ed..............

Point a being the crucial one, in a season of dismal averageness (through a combination of several factors, mainly self inflicted) we need every league point available. We certainly dont need a vital try denied through lack of knowledge - by 2 professional refs.

The other points you make are irrelevant, but do back up my suspicions that despite Saints & Wire being way superior, most pie fans fear Leeds the most. Just as when we were good, Wigan were our bogie team.

Nope. No fear at all for Leeds, anyone who can play rugby without getting sucked into a niggle-fest will beat Leeds easily.

That's a new one.

Even on TotalRL - which is superficially a neutral site, though most of its posters still hate Wigan - they are saying the same thing. Had the incident occurred earlier on and had it not been a Leeds v Wigan situation, there would have been no further comment.

Leeds seem to have a huge self-pity thing going on at present, which I suspect stems from being stunned at how quickly they've fallen from grace. The attempts to blame Wigan players for McGuire's injury last season, the private meetings to discuss other clubs' tactics. the ludicrous overreaction to the Lima tackle, and now this - all smack of a club striking out because they are basically in a daze.

Of course, comments in the media have helped fuel their outrage. There are two things you can be sure of: a) Had a Wigan player dropped that ball and had his resulting 'score' disallowed, there would have been no mention of contoversy in the RL press. b) There would have been none from the Wigan fans either.

I fear every team. You aren't special enough to be the one I fear most!

It was a knock on, always has always will be. It's a knock on in the amateur game the junior game and the professional game!

You my friend are deluded.