For me he's got the hardest job in SL.

He's got a team of ageing former champs. 3 years ago you couldn't touch guys like Peacock, Senior or Webb and now simply age had caught up with them. Also key guys like Burrow and Maguire have had some serious injury problems which doesn't help.

You start to look at quality players like Maguire, Burrow, Webb, Senior, Peacock and others comming into the side then getting injured and then comming back and you realise how difficult it is.

He's in a no win situation. If he does well with the squat he's got and get says 4th place then he's still gonna get shot down as the fans expect them to be champs.

I agree. I think all that matters tonight is how Wigan play.

No matter how motivated Leeds are or aren't, if Wigan play as well as they can, they should win.

It's that old question though - which Wigan will turn up?

Nothing wrong imo. As Gaskell and others have said, he believes that if leeds begin to perform then results will come. I agree. When Leeds turn up they can beat anyone.

Nothing wrong? Honestly? How would you feel if, in the lead to our away fixture at Wire, Madge said it wasn't about winning but hoped that we came away from Warrington having had a good crack at it? Of course, We know he won't, and that's one of the reasons we're champions. IMO, any coach who gives the appearance of accepting defeat so readily should be asked some serious questions by the fans and anyone else with an interest in the club, and it's one of the reasons I'm so glad we don't have to put up with the apathetic and totally uninspirational Noble anymore.

It's the way he phrased it...

"it's all about the performance, which has been lacking recently. If we put in a good performance, regardless of the result, i'll be happy"

NOT

"we're not going there for the win, it's not about winning"

Once concentrating on how they'll perform, the other is admitting defeat before you start.

To be 100% fair to McDermott, he said what he said in the context of the Bradford game. He agreed fully that Leeds were very poor against Bradfart and with the amount of possession they had, should have won easily. The next question raised by sky's interviewer was about the Wigan game and McDermott answered it by saying that as long as they play well, he isn't bothered about the 2 points. The big thing he wants from the Wigan game is to come away with at least something to build on, which is precisely the opposite of what he got from the Bradfart game. Still a mad thing for a coach to say, even one under so much pressure. Must admit, they do look a disorganised shambles at times, Leeds that is.