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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Here's a little quiz question for you:
Hansen is a first team starter for Wigan, he gets injured. Who the following week starts in the 1-13 line up?
The answer will give you his direct replacement.
For an extra point: how many games have Wigan lost in his absence?'"
The answer will not give his direct replacement. The answer will give a player regularly included in the same squad as him. Again, I reiterate my point about the subs bench. If it worked the way it did in football, with a very limited number, no chance to bring a subbed player back on and not being allowed to utilise your full bench, then yes, you would be correct.
However, that's not how Rugby League works, thankfully. If you start the game as one of the four on the bench, you're extremely likely to get just as much game time as the man who starts in your position on the pitch. That does not make you his replacement.
And for my extra point, I addressed that issue in my very first post on this thread: Quote Last Son of Wigan="Lucky XIII"Have we missed HH in terms of results? Fair enough, if you look at nothing but, no we haven't.
Have we missed HH in terms of the team's performance over 80 minutes in each of those games? Quite potentially. It's impossible to say for certain without a bleedin' time machine. He offers a hell of a lot to the squad when he's in it. He's very quick for a SR and is one of the best defenders in the league.'"
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"? What has this got to do with OP?'"
You asked the question.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"? What has this got to do with OP?'"
Nothing. But it was you who brought this up:
Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"I take it you watched the WCC?'"

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| Quote Lucky XIII="Lucky XIII"The answer will not give his direct replacement. The answer will give a player regularly included in the same squad as him. Again, I reiterate my point about the subs bench. If it worked the way it did in football, with a very limited number, no chance to bring a subbed player back on and not being allowed to utilise your full bench, then yes, you would be correct.
However, that's not how Rugby League works, thankfully. If you start the game as one of the four on the bench, you're extremely likely to get just as much game time as the man who starts in your position on the pitch. That does not make you his replacement.
And for my extra point, I addressed that issue in my very first post on this thread: '"
I do see your point, seriously I do. I value Hansen for his contribution namely in defense. But then I look at a few other factors which are the other players we have in the backrow, and the results from the games he was out, and then in all honesty if someone were to say did we miss him? I say, no, not really.
We covered well and won our games. Hats off to squad depth.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Nothing. But it was you who brought this up:
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I shouldn't have allowed myself to go off topic. I did it as people were pecking my head for comparisons to other notable absences, naturally I mentioned Pat.
Anyway...
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"I do see your point, seriously I do. I value Hansen for his contribution namely in defense. But then I look at a few other factors which are the other players we have in the backrow, and the results from the games he was out, and then in all honesty if someone were to say did we miss him? I say, no, not really.
We covered well and won our games. Hats off to squad depth.'"
And to that extent I agree with you. Based purely on results we've not missed him.
Based on how the squad has performed, that's open to interpretation, and the majority would seem to indicate that we have.
In the future, try to refrain from making massively sweeping statements about a player (who is very popular amongst the fans) and his contribution to the squad, and then not expecting to have your head bitten off.
We're done here.
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| Quote Lucky XIII="Lucky XIII"And to that extent I agree with you. Based purely on results we've not missed him.
Based on how the squad has performed, that's open to interpretation, and the majority would seem to indicate that we have.
In the future, try to refrain from making massively sweeping statements about a (very popular amongst the fans) player and his contribution to the squad, and then not expecting to have your head bitten off. We're done here.'"
Cheers for the tip. I usually expected a more intelligent response from people which doesn't always happen.
Thank you for providing decent discussion without any abuse.
All done.
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| I dont think we've missed him, because we have a good squad.
HOWEVER I do believe that we would have been a stronger team with him in, and that he is a far superior player to Chris Tuson.
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| Hansen hasn't been missed as we have lost zero games in his absence 
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| Hansen has been picked in the =#FF0000starting XIII in every game except one when he has been available for selection.
Seeing that second row is probably our strongest position squad wise that would suggest that the coaching staff rate HH very highly.
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Have we missed Fielden and Gleeson?
Would we have won any more games with them? Maybe.
Would we have lost any more games with them? Probably not.
So good riddance to Gleeson? No, I'd have him back like a shot.
So get rid of the high-earner that is Fielden? I think not.
HH deserves his place in the 13, I believe we are weaker without him, although full respect to the other squad players, so, yes, he has been missed.
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