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| COuldnt have happened to a nicer chap.
Shame the punch didnt do more damage, just like the little himself tries to do when he leads with his knees in the tackle.
I hope open season on Tomkins has been declared.
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| Quote Guerrier="Guerrier"Come on now, you know full well there are plenty on here who want a reasoned discussion. Just because some decide to drag it down to petty bickering shouldn't detract from that.
I agree with your points above, and reckless is an apt discussion as I don't believe there was any malice in it.
That said, Ganson is one of a small number of referees who would have produced the red there. God only knows what the game could have descended into if Alibert was in charge.'"
I know...but it is so annoying when you read these sort of comments around the forums - same as that pathetic comment about "open season" above.
And yes, had Halibut been in charge God knows how the game would have ended up. Ganson and the specsavers adverts on the touchlines missed a load of forward passes (on both sides), but overall he did a pretty good job of controlling the match whilst still letting it flow. You didn't notice him most of the time (forward passes excepted...  )
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| Quote Katie.Smithson="Katie.Smithson"COuldnt have happened to a nicer chap.
Shame the punch didnt do more damage, just like the little travelling friend himself tries to do when he leads with his knees in the tackle.
I hope open season on Tomkins has been declared.'"
You really are a pathetic human being arent you, wishing injury on a young talent, the BEST young talent in the game in this country. And were does this "travelling gypsy" cr@p come from?? Why exactly is it you hate Sam so much...........il tell you why, because he's a class act and the rest of the league are frightened to death of him. Anyway, id ban you off the boards if it was up to me for the amount of pathetic, embarrasing posts your putting on.
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| Quote Adeybull="Adeybull"
If you or others allege it was deliberate, I suggest you are knocking on the door of defamation. Reckless? as it ended up, probably. Deliberate? No chance. Only a complete idiot would try and do that deliberately, in front of the cameras and with no other players to hide behind. '"
Reckless or deliberate I think the term "complete idiot" applies perfectly to Raynor in this instance. You can't excuse reckless tackles like that on the basis it was a last ditch effort that went wrong. RL players need to make sensible judgements as to when they can try and do things like knock the ball out and when they can't because they risk serious injury to other players. They do it all the time because if they didn't anything would go so Raynor needs a lengthy ban to teach him a lesson.
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| Quote 21-12="21-12"You really are a pathetic human being arent you, wishing injury on a young talent, the BEST young talent in the game in this country. And were does this "travelling gypsy" cr@p come from?? Why exactly is it you hate Sam so much...........il tell you why, because he's a class act and the rest of the league are frightened to death of him. Anyway, id ban you off the boards if it was up to me for the amount of pathetic, embarrasing posts your putting on.'"

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| Quote 21-12="21-12"You really are a pathetic human being arent you, wishing injury on a young talent, the BEST young talent in the game in this country. And were does this "travelling gypsy" cr@p come from?? Why exactly is it you hate Sam so much...........il tell you why, because he's a class act and the rest of the league are frightened to death of him. Anyway, id ban you off the boards if it was up to me for the amount of pathetic, embarrasing posts your putting on.'"
If you don't feed the troll it goes elsewhere for food.
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| 1/ no intent to hurt the player
2/ if Raynor had been .023seconds faster he would have hit the ball! ... he didnt!
3/ Sending off .. ok 50/50 if Tomkins had not been knocked out .. he wouldnt have been sent off .. however he was .. SO ZERO ARGUMENT!
4/ Few bad apples for all clubs .. booing out of order!
5/ not too sure if a hit to the head is a sending off offence .. as we see it week in week out at all clubs
6/ correct decision by the ref .. think all Raynor deserves is a telling off about his tackling style ... WE WILL SEE WORSE AND MORE INTENT TACKLES DURING THE SEASON!
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| Quote pweibj="pweibj"1/ no intent to hurt the player
2/ if Raynor had been .023seconds faster he would have hit the ball! ... he didnt!
3/ Sending off .. ok 50/50 if Tompkins had not been knocked out .. he wouldnt have been sent off .. however he was .. SO ZERO ARGUMENT!
4/ Few bad apples for all clubs .. booing out of order!
5/ not too sure if a hit to the head is a sending off offence .. as we see it week in week out at all clubs
6/ correct decision by the ref .. think all Raynor deserves is a telling off about his tackling style ... WE WILL SEE WORSE AND MORE INTENT TACKLES DURING THE SEASON!'"
Thanks for that.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"Reckless or deliberate I think the term "complete idiot" applies perfectly to Raynor in this instance. You can't excuse reckless tackles like that on the basis it was a last ditch effort that went wrong. RL players need to make sensible judgements as to when they can try and do things like knock the ball out and when they can't because they risk serious injury to other players. They do it all the time because if they didn't anything would go so Raynor needs a lengthy ban to teach him a lesson.'"
Lengthy ban for a split-second decision that went wrong? You teach people lessons for premeditated or deliberate actions, not for instinctive mistakes where there is not time to make "sensible judgments".
I'll be watching out for you, sunshine, to see how you respond next time one of your guys does something similar.  As they will, because its a hard game and mistakes are inevitable (even if you seem unable to accept that). Let's see then if you are looking at this objectively, or through cherry and white specs?
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| Were you one of the Bradford fans clapping Raynor off the pitch, Adey? Or booing Tomkins when he was KO'd? Or both?
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| Quote Adeybull="Adeybull"I'll be watching out for you, sunshine, to see how you respond next time one of your guys does something similar.
Talking of watching out for people I think we could spot you on TV .... were you one of the five Bratfort fans sat in the main stand?
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