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| Quote: Bilko "It's not the same at all. The soccer coverage doesn't have 4-5 commentators all arguing with each other, they have 1 man who calls the action (and doesn't really give an opinion because that's not really his job - take note Eddie!) and then a match summariser (who speaks when he is supposed to). Then at half time on the soccer we get a fresh presenter and two fresh pundits who's opinions we haven't heard yet. Compare that to Super League and at half time we get Eddie (again!) and a studio pundit who has also probably been involved in the commentary so we also know his opinion already. Same with the Extra Time show they do on Fridays. Stevo and Phil Clarke are always on it, yet we already know what they think from the commentary, so in effect it is a waste of time.
Splitting studio from commentary would go a long way to refreshing up the coverage. How they go about things smacks back to an era when Eddie & Stevo did the lot on the old BSB Sport Channel in 1990 because the budget was so low they couldn't afford a seperate studio from commentary. That way of doing things for me is at least 5-7 years out of date now because in that time they've brought on board Phil Clarke (in a more predominant role to his old just odd comments off the touchline), Brian Carney, Barrie McDermott, Terry O'Connor and recently Jon Wells. No other sport transmits like that!'"
Cant disagree with a lot of this..compartmentalising the pundits / commentators and giving them specific roles and slots within the programmes would help tidy things up, and stop the repetition. The arguing between them is also cringe worthy at times - Clarky especially (who is usually right) often digs his heals in and can be really condescending to the others with different opionions. The coverage in general though is of a very high standard and costs SKY a fortune to set up (twice)each week.
FWIW I spent some time with the sky team at a live broadcast and got shown around - it is an amazing setup. There are 80+ people involved for up to 3 days for each game, with hotel costs etc for crew memebers, thay have a travelling canteen to feed the army of staff, and hire a £10m truck for the production of each show - NOT CHEAP!
Whilst the pundits have many critics - we shouldnt dis the support of the broadcaster (it would be hard / impossible to replicate with an alternative channel).
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| Quote: Cruncher "
However, it was quite encouraging to hear about the new modifications that have already been and are still being made to the cap - the Sean O'Loughlin 'club-trained player' development was excellent news.'"
It's very good but it does in effect increase the cap (because he's off it) by the amount of his wages. So if he was on £160K our salary spend could be £1.76m instead of £1.6m, an effective 10% increase in one go. Good news on the one hand but if IL thinks we can't afford an increase anyway, isn't it a bit of a moot point?
Quote: Cruncher "I also like the sound of the new Rugby Union recruitment scheme. I still can't help wondering if some kind of cap leeway could be introduced on players setting up their own sponsorship deals, etc, as that wouldn't be money lost to the game, but it sounds as if more moves are under consideration, so there's plenty of scope for optimism.
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I don't understand the RU recruitment scheme. Aren't we always slagging them off for not producing their own players and looking at our young stars? Aren't we supposed to produce enough players anyway and the problem is perceived to be being able to keep what we produce in the face of high wages in RU (and now the NRL), not that we need recruit RU players? What's the point in dispensations for unknown young RU players if we can't keep a Mossop or a Farrell?
I agree about sponsorship and marketing deals for players. I have been saying this should happen for some time. The fact any such deal would currently count in the cap is mad. Not only does it preclude players from earning money this way it also means they are not gaining any publicity for the game by being the face of some product or other on TV or in the press. Can you imagine what kind of advertising could have been made when Andy Farrell was playing and he played on with his broken knose all badaged up? What an image for the marketeers that would have been. Sadly I don't think we have any players with a high enough profile these days to get anyone interesed.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: uglybug "Getting back to the salary cap, how does raising the salary cap raise the profile of Rugby League. Lets be honest it means a larger share of clubs revenue goes into the players back pockets rather than be spent inproving facilities, bring on young talent etc. Surely salary cap rises devalue long term club interests.'"
The salary cap increase will mean a flood of players world wide will be interested in the NRL. Firstly it is likely that any talent that has left the NRL like the huge names of Sonny Bill Williams, Isreal Folau and a few top players who have come to super league like Hoffman and O'Donnell...... do you not think signing players like that will see ticket sales go up? The NRL will go huge in 2013 due to the higher quality of product due to better players playing...... they will also sign up the best English talent (they have to get players from somewhere).... finally rugby players in both codes will be interested in that kind of money, maybe a player like Dan Carter (who I believe would be a class league player) would consider a move, these kind of singings would create huge media interest and therefore more 'free' advertising. It's all about creating publicity and thats exactly what this will do.
This deal will leave RU and football way behind in aus and NZ and RL will go flying up to hopefully compete with AFL.
You talk about revenue etc. and where the money will go.... this deal will increase revenue, more people will want to play the game because of the quality of the product, more young players will be produced. It will mean every club can spend to the full cap. Wait to the end of this deal and I bet it will fly up again.
SOO is the biggest yearly sporting event in aus and they have built on this success and they now have megga stars playing the game, this as well will continue to grow.
Although there are negatives for super league, this is a huge deal for RL down under.
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| Quote: Odemwingie "The salary cap increase will mean a flood of players world wide will be interested in the NRL. Firstly it is likely that any talent that has left the NRL like the huge names of Sonny Bill Williams, Isreal Folau and a few top players who have come to super league like Hoffman and O'Donnell...... do you not think signing players like that will see ticket sales go up? The NRL will go huge in 2013 due to the higher quality of product due to better players playing...... they will also sign up the best English talent (they have to get players from somewhere).... finally rugby players in both codes will be interested in that kind of money, maybe a player like Dan Carter (who I believe would be a class league player) would consider a move, these kind of singings would create huge media interest and therefore more 'free' advertising. It's all about creating publicity and thats exactly what this will do.
This deal will leave RU and football way behind in aus and NZ and RL will go flying up to hopefully compete with AFL.
You talk about revenue etc. and where the money will go.... this deal will increase revenue, more people will want to play the game because of the quality of the product, more young players will be produced. It will mean every club can spend to the full cap. Wait to the end of this deal and I bet it will fly up again.
SOO is the biggest yearly sporting event in aus and they have built on this success and they now have megga stars playing the game, this as well will continue to grow.
Although there are negatives for super league, this is a huge deal for RL down under.'"
I for one would be very happy to see the NRL start cherry-picking from the ranks of the Wallabies and the All Blacks.
That would be at least one good thing to come from all this.
There is far too much rugby talent wasted on southern hemisphere RU.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Cruncher "I for one would be very happy to see the NRL start cherry-picking from the ranks of the Wallabies and the All Blacks.
That would be at least one good thing to come from all this.
There is far too much rugby talent wasted on southern hemisphere RU.'"
It would be one of the best things for the sport down there IMO.
It would be the same over here. Imagine if super league clubs signed Ashton, Wilkinson, Flood, Henson, O'Driscoll and maybe some French players as well. It would have a huge impact.
I am sure there is a select few who play for the All-blacks and the wallabies who could do well in the NRL, like I said Dan Carter is one.
Most important signing for me though is SBW, he needs to return!
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| Quote: Deano G "Good point, but without knowing how many discounted and concessionary tickets there are it's difficult to say. Bear in mind too that 5,000 tickets are bought on average by non-season ticket holders, which will push up the average price of a seat considerably.'"
True true. Turns out we have recorded a profit last year and on for one this year too though so all is seemingly well now anyway
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