FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > forward passes
21 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1034No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2012Dec 2011LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

[color=#FF4000:3htgpm5r][quote:3htgpm5r]I read that Leeds-Bradford is an airport and that Wigan-St Helens is a rivalry. It's one I can't wait for[/quote:3htgpm5r] Ryan Hoffman [quote:3htgpm5r]After all, rugby league has a history of ideas that appear madcap at first but are taken up elsewhere, usually by rugby union[/quote:3htgpm5r] Christopher Irvine - The Times [quote:3htgpm5r] Wire fans, like Leeds fans, are fickle as feck, and mostly glory supporters. [/quote:3htgpm5r] Sherbert Dip - Leeds Fan [quote:3htgpm5r]I will never forget that atmosphere at Knowsley Road on Good Friday when the final hooter sounded. On behalf of all the fellas thank you so much for being the greatest fans in the world.[/quote:3htgpm5r] Phil Bailey[/color:3htgpm5r]:



The 'momentum rule' is the way Stevo describes the ball having forward momentum even if it's passed backwards.

Basically if a player is running forwards, and passes the ball sideways, it will travel forwards relative to the field because the ball will have the same forward speed as the player who passed it. Its a tough thing to try to explain in words.

Momentum is a poor choice of word really, and thats what confuses people, as well as it being a tough concept to visualize. The ball has two components to its movement, a forward compenent from the player who passed it running forwards, and whatever speed the player passing it gives it by passing, so a combination of these two components gives it a resultant speed that is "forwards"

That's why ref's look at how the hands point, rather than use markers.

Re the poll I think we have to leave it as it is, because unless there is a camera that is exactly level with the ball then there will never be a definitive answer.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach390No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2018Mar 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
11998.gif
:11998.gif



If it's really obvious then surely there's no reason for the video ref, as the ref/touchjudge should just give it.

A lot of tries are scored from within 10 metres and the mojority of passes to set up close range tries are short and flat.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner557No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2012Oct 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9237_1268138108.gif
[quote="Saddened!":2s3i877q]In all seriousness I think Sam Tomkins will disappear. The real star is his better looking back row brother.[/quote:2s3i877q] [quote="Damo-Leeds":2s3i877q]Sam Tomkins is just mere hype hiding behind a good team. Danny McGuire is the real deal.[/quote:2s3i877q]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_9237.gif



Quote: hula89 "It has everything to do with momentum and is actually quite a good name for it. Momentum simply means that the momentum of the player moving forward makes the ball move forward when it is released exactly as you have described there.'"

Momentum is mass multiplied by direction. It obviously doesn't have anything to do with the mass of the ball (or players), only the direction. Therefore, the "direction rule" would have been a better name. That's all I was saying.

The problem with including it in video decisions is that the camera would have to be in exactly the right position to be able to make a correct decision, which is virtually impossible, and in fact from different angles passes can look forward or backward. I guess that's why the RFL decided that the VR could not make decisions on forward passes, which is corrcet IMO.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner557No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2012Oct 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9237_1268138108.gif
[quote="Saddened!":2s3i877q]In all seriousness I think Sam Tomkins will disappear. The real star is his better looking back row brother.[/quote:2s3i877q] [quote="Damo-Leeds":2s3i877q]Sam Tomkins is just mere hype hiding behind a good team. Danny McGuire is the real deal.[/quote:2s3i877q]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_9237.gif



Quote: hula89 "Nah because it's really obvious which ones are forward and which arent and those that clearly arent wouldnt need sending. I'd say in a game with 10 tries then no more than 1 extra than normally average would need to be sent up to vr.'"

Correct, but the difficulty would be proving that the pass was forward, which you could only do if the camera was in the right position.

If the camera is not exactly level with the players, then the direction is difficult to judge, particluarly when the pass is rising or falling in height, because that can make it look like the forward/backward angle is different from what it actually is.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach503No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2018Sep 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
26118.gif
:26118.gif



Should have been at Wire match today to see how refs (Thaler) can't handle forward pass rule (and knock ons) multiple times......plenty of em from Hull and no callforthcoming; we do one (and score a try) and get pulled up.....

But better team on the day; no excuses ...

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner557No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2012Oct 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9237_1268138108.gif
[quote="Saddened!":2s3i877q]In all seriousness I think Sam Tomkins will disappear. The real star is his better looking back row brother.[/quote:2s3i877q] [quote="Damo-Leeds":2s3i877q]Sam Tomkins is just mere hype hiding behind a good team. Danny McGuire is the real deal.[/quote:2s3i877q]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_9237.gif



Quote: orford_addict "Should have been at Wire match today to see how refs (Thaler) can't handle forward pass rule (and knock ons) multiple times......plenty of em from Hull and no callforthcoming; we do one (and score a try) and get pulled up.....

But better team on the day; no excuses ...'"

The first part of your post certainly sounded like exactly that icon_lol.gif

21 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
21 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.7373046875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
Transfer Talk V5
fanstanningl
501
21m
Film game
Boss Hog
5622
40m
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
57m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
ArthurClues
9
57m
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
Recent
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
Recent
Salford
karetaker
9
Recent
War of the Roses
ratticusfinc
30
Recent
Catalan Away
jonh
5
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Marcus's Bic
4011
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Fixtures 2025
Ellam
63
1m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
1m
Film game
Boss Hog
5622
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
ArthurClues
9
2m
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
2m
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
2m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
2m
New Kit
Saddened!
67
2m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
3m
Salford
karetaker
9
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
9
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
318
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
509
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1258
England's Women Demolish The W..
1085
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1322
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1113
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1371
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1915
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2133
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2375
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1947
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2184
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2649
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2078
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2155
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,758 ↑580,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
 Sat 8th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Catalans
v
Leeds
 Sun 9th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Warrington
v
Wakefield
17:30
Wigan
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 20th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
Salford
v
Huddersfield
 Fri 21st Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
St.Helens
v
Warrington
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
Transfer Talk V5
fanstanningl
501
21m
Film game
Boss Hog
5622
40m
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
57m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
ArthurClues
9
57m
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
Recent
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
Recent
Salford
karetaker
9
Recent
War of the Roses
ratticusfinc
30
Recent
Catalan Away
jonh
5
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Marcus's Bic
4011
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Fixtures 2025
Ellam
63
1m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
1m
Film game
Boss Hog
5622
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
ArthurClues
9
2m
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
2m
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
2m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63221
2m
New Kit
Saddened!
67
2m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
3m
Salford
karetaker
9
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
bellycouldta
3
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
9
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
318
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
509
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1258
England's Women Demolish The W..
1085
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1322
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1113
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1371
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1915
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2133
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2375
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1947
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2184
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2649
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2078
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2155


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!