I understand the frustration with Finch and Lima, but this seems to be a pattern with Australians at Wigan - they seem to struggle the first year. I remember people not being that impressed with Richards when he first started with us. Amos Roberts was the same, but last year at the beginning of the season he was blitzing it (I know he is not the same now).

I really don't understand why. You would think with the level of professionalism and intensity that they play in Australia, they would come over here and burn it up at the beginning and lose the intensity over time. Seems to be the reverse. To be fair to Finch he is coming back from an injury, and having to settle into a complex position, which requires knowing the other players. I am hoping as the season progresses he will come around ... the old story that class is permanent, etc. Well I hope so anyways, because it is the halfbacks where we are struggling.

What I don't understand is that we have Paul Deacon on the pitch and yet the majority of the time an attacking kick went up in their half it was Finch. I think we should be utilising Deacons kicking more in attack. Thought Finch played better than he did against Catalans but I'm still not thrilled with his performance, especially with his kicking.

I think he does a good job as a leader and organiser and apparently joker behind scenes
BUT he's got step it up surely no can argue otherwise

I thought Finch was excellent when he came on today, some people just wont even give him a chance. If he was from Wigan everyone would be up his .

Bin him off

Not much good this Finch bloke is he ?

His short kicking was dreadful, especially first half. He's showing gradual improvement though, week on week.

Finch...is over-rated. You were far slicker with Deacon on.

Out of the Melbourne trio Hoffman is by fat the best whilst Lima [are you Feka in disguise?

Finch was that crap he played in state of origin games

Finch had a better game today outside of a couple of poor kicks and Lima was very solid again. I honestly can't (well in can) believe the attitudes of some Wigan fans in writing these guys off already. They both need time especially Finch who is coming back from his first ever injury layoff. As for Lima I don't quite get the criticism full stop. I've read a couple of people call him Feka Mark II and that's really puzzling as I don't ever remember Feka getting through 15+ carries and 30+ tackles a game! He isn't an impact type prop and should in no way be compared to Feka. He's a workhorse and is doing a fine job for the team.

You know it's wrong to talk sense when it comes to Aussies on here NK, I remember folk wanting Piggy out after a few months and wishing we still had Micky Higham. How ironic now that Piggy is one of the bigger losses in the team this year.