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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"Good point, well made. Nothing in that tackle at all, this pic just proves why it was never brought up.
It's a shame your honest posts are the exception rather than the rule on this board.'"
Thank you for confirming what I suspected from reading your other posts on this forum. You are either an idiot blinded by loyalty or just a troll.
Nothing in that tackle??? What happens before or after that shot is irrelevant. At that point your player has his arms around sam's neck, and pulling him over his own body. At that point, all or at least the majority of Sam's weight +the force used to execute the lift is being put on Sam's neck. Now I say this tackle is 100 times worse than any chicken wing tackle you will ever see.
AFWIW I think Joel deserved his ban for the attack to Yeaman's head too. (Although not for punching back after being punched 3 times) |
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"Good point, well made. Nothing in that tackle at all, this pic just proves why it was never brought up.'"
You have been posting some reasonable arguments until this. The tackle was very dangerous, no one can deny that. |
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"Good point, well made. Nothing in that tackle at all, this pic just proves why it was never brought up.
It's a shame your honest posts are the exception rather than the rule on this board.'"
Please can you tell us why you didn't use this argument in the thread on the Hull FC board which had "incriminating" pictures of Joel Tomkins elbowing Yeaman in the face?
Could it be that your posts are so partial that they are best ignored for lack of useful content? |
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I don't understand how a player can be put on report but not be seen at the disiplinary. At the very least the RFL should see the player to make a no-case statement and why to make the process appear more open and honnest.
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Wigan were awarded a penalty for that tackle.
Ganson spoke to Manu, on the run, about it.
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| Quote Arthur Warrior="Arthur Warrior"Wigan are accused of having an Aussie style of defence'"
You're confusing an Aussie style of defence with a Melbourne style of defence.
They aren't the same thing by the way and I think you'll find there was plenty of complaint in the NRL about Melbourne so its not an England v Oz thing. You're twisting the complaints like Lima twists arms  |
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The problem I have with all this is that I've yet to see or hear an opposition coach come up with any evidence of a specific complaint. Until they do it all just sounds like sour grapes because their team has just been turned over
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Something to shut Hull fans Up when complaining about Wigan thinking we have been unfairly punished.
Here is the page of Radfords charge from the RFL:
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2400
Here is Lima's for the Saints game:
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2320
Notice a part of that is almost word for word:
Radford's:
"The Panel believed that your opponent’s limb was moved in an abnormal direction and outside the usual ranges of movement. Of particular concern to the Panel was your action in grabbing your opponent’s arm and shoulder, then proceeding to put your opponent’s arm and shoulder in a vulnerable position behind his back, with your body weight maintaining the arm in a vulnerable position with the arm and shoulder joint rotated in an abnormal direction that involved an unacceptable risk of injury to that player. As a defender you have a special duty to avoid such contact. The Panel believed your actions were unnecessary and could have resulted in an injury to your opponent"
Lima's:
"The Panel believed that your opponent’s limb was moved in an abnormal direction and outside the usual ranges of movement. Of particular concern to the Panel was your action in grabbing your opponent’s arm and shoulder, then proceeding to put your opponent’s arm and shoulder in a vulnerable position, with the arm and shoulder joint rotated in an abnormal direction that involved an unacceptable risk of injury to that player. As a defender you have a special duty to avoid such contact. The Panel believed your actions were unnecessary and could have resulted in an injury to your opponent."
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Lima - 2 matches.
Radford - 0 matches.
Oh and to add Lima pleaded guilty and apologised Radford pleaded not guilty and has so far not apologised for his actions. |
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Something to shut Hull fans Up when complaining about Wigan thinking we have been unfairly punished.
Here is the page of Radfords charge from the RFL:
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2400
Here is Lima's for the Saints game:
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2320
Notice a part of that is almost word for word:
Radford's:
"The Panel believed that your opponent’s limb was moved in an abnormal direction and outside the usual ranges of movement. Of particular concern to the Panel was your action in grabbing your opponent’s arm and shoulder, then proceeding to put your opponent’s arm and shoulder in a vulnerable position behind his back, with your body weight maintaining the arm in a vulnerable position with the arm and shoulder joint rotated in an abnormal direction that involved an unacceptable risk of injury to that player. As a defender you have a special duty to avoid such contact. The Panel believed your actions were unnecessary and could have resulted in an injury to your opponent"
Lima's:
"The Panel believed that your opponent’s limb was moved in an abnormal direction and outside the usual ranges of movement. Of particular concern to the Panel was your action in grabbing your opponent’s arm and shoulder, then proceeding to put your opponent’s arm and shoulder in a vulnerable position, with the arm and shoulder joint rotated in an abnormal direction that involved an unacceptable risk of injury to that player. As a defender you have a special duty to avoid such contact. The Panel believed your actions were unnecessary and could have resulted in an injury to your opponent."
Result:
Lima - 2 matches.
Radford - 0 matches.
Oh and to add Lima pleaded guilty and apologised Radford pleaded not guilty and has so far not apologised for his actions. | |
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Quote hula89="hula89"Something to shut Hull fans Up when complaining about Wigan thinking we have been unfairly punished.
Here is the page of Radfords charge from the RFL:
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2400
Here is Lima's for the Saints game:
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2320
Notice a part of that is almost word for word:
Radford's:
"The Panel believed that your opponent’s limb was moved in an abnormal direction and outside the usual ranges of movement. Of particular concern to the Panel was your action in grabbing your opponent’s arm and shoulder, then proceeding to put your opponent’s arm and shoulder in a vulnerable position behind his back, with your body weight maintaining the arm in a vulnerable position with the arm and shoulder joint rotated in an abnormal direction that involved an unacceptable risk of injury to that player. As a defender you have a special duty to avoid such contact. The Panel believed your actions were unnecessary and could have resulted in an injury to your opponent"
Lima's:
"The Panel believed that your opponent’s limb was moved in an abnormal direction and outside the usual ranges of movement. Of particular concern to the Panel was your action in grabbing your opponent’s arm and shoulder, then proceeding to put your opponent’s arm and shoulder in a vulnerable position, with the arm and shoulder joint rotated in an abnormal direction that involved an unacceptable risk of injury to that player. As a defender you have a special duty to avoid such contact. The Panel believed your actions were unnecessary and could have resulted in an injury to your opponent."
Result:
Lima - 2 matches.
Radford - 0 matches.
Oh and to add Lima pleaded guilty and apologised Radford pleaded not guilty and has so far not apologised for his actions.'"
It's very hard to justify any difference, unless the disciplinary panel has changed? |
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Quote hula89="hula89"Something to shut Hull fans Up when complaining about Wigan thinking we have been unfairly punished.
Here is the page of Radfords charge from the RFL:
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2400
Here is Lima's for the Saints game:
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?2320
Notice a part of that is almost word for word:
Radford's:
"The Panel believed that your opponent’s limb was moved in an abnormal direction and outside the usual ranges of movement. Of particular concern to the Panel was your action in grabbing your opponent’s arm and shoulder, then proceeding to put your opponent’s arm and shoulder in a vulnerable position behind his back, with your body weight maintaining the arm in a vulnerable position with the arm and shoulder joint rotated in an abnormal direction that involved an unacceptable risk of injury to that player. As a defender you have a special duty to avoid such contact. The Panel believed your actions were unnecessary and could have resulted in an injury to your opponent"
Lima's:
"The Panel believed that your opponent’s limb was moved in an abnormal direction and outside the usual ranges of movement. Of particular concern to the Panel was your action in grabbing your opponent’s arm and shoulder, then proceeding to put your opponent’s arm and shoulder in a vulnerable position, with the arm and shoulder joint rotated in an abnormal direction that involved an unacceptable risk of injury to that player. As a defender you have a special duty to avoid such contact. The Panel believed your actions were unnecessary and could have resulted in an injury to your opponent."
Result:
Lima - 2 matches.
Radford - 0 matches.
Oh and to add Lima pleaded guilty and apologised Radford pleaded not guilty and has so far not apologised for his actions.'"
It's very hard to justify any difference, unless the disciplinary panel has changed? | |
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"It's very hard to justify any difference, unless the disciplinary panel has changed?'"
It was the same Chairman with different side members. So surely some consistency should have been possible seeing as he chaired both meetings. |
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Is that not more a grapple tackle than a chicken wing in the OP?
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