Your not and never have been...it is a penalty whether or not it hits the other player or the ground - a player cannot deliberately throw a ball forward in rugby league regardless of whether it hits another man or the floor!

This was the reason I said it was a debatable try. In the refs opinion on the day it was not deliberate, however IMO I would argue it couldnt be argued it wasnt deliberate, as sammut reacted to the pass by deliberately knocking the ball forward as it was the only way he could gather the ball and keep it away from the opposition. Different IMO to what Joel did as he was simply juggled the ball to obtain control and avoid a knock on.

One factor they look at is whether the player has full possession of the ball before it goes forward, which in Sammut's case he clearly didn't.

Id forgot the other try til then.......It was against bratfut at Wrexham near the end of the season I think. That was a pretty special try actually.

I agree with Sams chip over at Warrington sending joel in at a close second.

However Gerrard Sammuts try at MM was immense!

for the same reasons of controversey I'd put the Crusaders try at Wrexham against Bradford above the MM magic one. THAT Gleeson try though is definately No. 1.

Probably the Gleeson's second in the GF. Watching the way the Saints dropped after that was class. Almost brought a tear to my eye.