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The days of rugby leauge being able to compete with union(with or without a cap)are unfortunatley long gone
Union offers players a bigger national profile,more money from tv revenue and most importantly the prospect of a competitive european and worldwide competition,imo leauge is far better to watch but it looks like were in the minority

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I was thinking to a point raised by Rio Ferdinand (of all people) during our Play-Off campaign.
He followed Wigan and mentioned us alot on Twitter and when asked why he mentioned that he had followed Wigan since the greats of Hanley and Offiah in the 90s. I think this shows that the real problem is that the game has gone down in profile since we had players like those. They were in the public eye much more (probably because at the time their team couldn't get in trouble for things) I mean isnt there even a thing to do with them getting paid to go on things like Soccer AM now? I was told the reason we dont send players on it is coz it counts towards the cap if they get paid so noone goes on.

We need more money and higher profile. Someone made the point that the cap arguments are saying that if we paid more then more kids would play rugby, well actually YES!
Consider that at 18 most of you here will have had a job, now imagine that you are offered a full time contract to play RL but they can only give you £5k a year coz of the cap, now I know it doesnt take a genius to realise that £5k a year is a pap wage so what do they do? They are forced to leave the sport and get a proper job on £12k plus. These players haven't reached their potential yet and havent had the chance; this is the ONLY way i can see any blame being put on the cap at all.

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



Quote: hula89 "I was thinking to a point raised by Rio Ferdinand (of all people) during our Play-Off campaign.
He followed Wigan and mentioned us alot on Twitter and when asked why he mentioned that he had followed Wigan since the greats of Hanley and Offiah in the 90s. I think this shows that the real problem is that the game has gone down in profile since we had players like those. They were in the public eye much more (probably because at the time their team couldn't get in trouble for things) I mean isnt there even a thing to do with them getting paid to go on things like Soccer AM now? I was told the reason we dont send players on it is coz it counts towards the cap if they get paid so noone goes on.

We need more money and higher profile. Someone made the point that the cap arguments are saying that if we paid more then more kids would play rugby, well actually YES!
Consider that at 18 most of you here will have had a job, now imagine that you are offered a full time contract to play RL but they can only give you £5k a year coz of the cap, now I know it doesnt take a genius to realise that £5k a year is a pap wage so what do they do? They are forced to leave the sport and get a proper job on £12k plus. These players haven't reached their potential yet and havent had the chance; this is the ONLY way i can see any blame being put on the cap at all.'"


If TV appearance fees do count towards the cap then the game has gone even crazier than I thought.

No doubt some die-hard flat-earther supporting the CC will be on this thread shortly to explain why its good to keep the profile of the game low.... icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Deano G "If TV appearance fees do count towards the cap then the game has gone even crazier than I thought.

No doubt some die-hard flat-earther supporting the CC will be on this thread shortly to explain why its good to keep the profile of the game low....
Surely that can't be true?

That would be a massive interference in a player's private dealings, which even Richard Lewis and the RFL wouldn't have to gall to impose - or would they?

That would be like my boss telling me I can't sell personal stuff on Ebay as it would raise my income to an unfair level compared to his other employees.

But then again, this is the RFL we're talking about.

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Quote: Cruncher "Surely that can't be true?

That would be a massive interference in a player's private dealings, which even Richard Lewis and the RFL wouldn't have to gall to impose - or would they?

That would be like my boss telling me I can't sell personal stuff on Ebay as it would raise my income to an unfair level compared to his other employees.

But then again, this is the RFL we're talking about.'"


I remember reading it on here if Sam did it in the name of England RL for example it would be ok but if he did it and advertised Wigan in any way or whatever if would then count on Wigan's cap or something.

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



Quote: Cruncher "Surely that can't be true?'"


I hope not, but it wouldn't surprise me, not with the people we've got running the game and the pro-CC nutters amongst the so-called fans of RL that begrudge players making a good living. icon_rolleyes.gif

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