Try telling that to your players, some of whom epitomised playing the victim card during the GF and at other times during the season, particularly in the case of your ginger scouse Whinger. Secondly tell it to your fans who have been moaning about injuries, your coach and many of your players all season on PlasticScouse.com.

Incidentally the only thing I have against the salary cap is that no fulltime professional player should be expected to put their bodies on the line week in week out to entertain the fans whilst earning less than 25k a year in some cases due to a system which doesn't allow for young players coming through from the under 20's to cover for injuries to have their contracts renegotiated mid season due to the 'spirit of the cap'. Judging by your frequent visits to our forums I'd say the phrase 'all about Wigan' could quite easily be used to describe the reasons for your apparent obsession, bitterness and jealousy. I suggest you spent a bit less time on here and a little bit more time dealing with your issues whilst reflecting on another Grand Final loss.

Can't we get past this Saints/Wigan argument and see who the real enemy is.
We all have to stick together and fight for the good of the game.
I understand the rivalry between our two great clubs but we both have a common enemy(not Wire BTW) and fight for the kids in our game.
Surely we can all do this for the good of the game.

The 20/25 was abolished a few years back wasn't it?

Well yeah, but the RFL don't post on here, AFAIK...

English RL needs Sam Tomkins as he's the best player in the league. Shame he isn't more marketable.

Interesting view. Let's just ignore that he's one of the few British RL players to date - if not the only one - who's featured in a TV advertising campaign.

Clearly someone doesn't agree with you.

Which one?

The one run on Granada for the Wigan v Warrington match last July.

I think what he means is that he is not marketable on a national scale.

Of course he has featured in the clubs TV ad, but that is not the same as advertising products for Nike, Puma, Adidas, Gilette etc.

Thats not the lads fault obviously, more another symptom our sports lack of media coverage.

He is withouth a doubt the best young English player in the game at the momment and it is a shame that your average man on the street will never know who he is because of the sport he plays.

In that respect, I can't think of too many British RL players who've been marketable.

Personally, I thought the OP was having a snide dig at Sam, but if I'm wrong I apologise to him and take the point.

Perhaps he was, i dont know.

Regards other RL players in marketing. i cant think of anybody either.

Strange one really, these lads are at the absolute top of their physical peak and they are not even picked up by Maximuscle etc.

Weird one that when they have these skinny footballers in there adverts and not hulking beasts like Fielden, Morely, Joel etc.

You would have thought that the build of your average RL player would be more desired by males than that of a scrawney wendyballer?

Mind you there was a time when you could not move for pictures of that ponce Gavin Henson. Maybe we should get Sam to shack up with some minor celebrity and the cash will start rolling in.