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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"I did try as clearly as possible to explain the reasons why i used that parrallel. I have quite clearly said the rhetorical statement i used was an idiotic and offensive position statement, in fact it was only used as an example of an idiotic and offensive statement. If anyone is truly offended by it then i apologise if i didnt make that clear enough or they thought i was in any way mocking or denegrating what happened, that was the exact opposite of my intention'"
Mike Gregory was a dearly loved man not only in this town, but in Rugby League in general by friends and foes alike, who tragically lost his life.
I'll accept your apology, and believe you that it wasn't intended.
I suspect if you'd said the same words in a pub in Wigan, you wouldn't be able to apologise.
This thread BADLY needs a lock.
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| Quote Wigan/Leeds Andy="Wigan/Leeds Andy"What happened to McGuire only happened to McGuire '" he isnt the first player tobe injured, he isnt the first player to break the rules. What has happened to Mcguire has most likely happened to every player, they have at times broke the rules and at times been injured.
Quote Wigan/Leeds Andyyou bizarrely tried to put what happened to Mike Greg into the McGuire context. How that's going to prove your point only you know.
'" Your principle should be applicable to any and all persons. Not only Mcguire
Quote Wigan/Leeds AndyAnd to be honest I don't what you're going on about Clarke changing the context? I've never said that.'" no you didnt say anything about Clarke changing the context. What you did say was the context was changed in Clarkes full quote compared to quote specifically about Mcguire. I am asking you what in the rest of the quote changed the context that was apparent in the smaller quote taken in isolation?
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| Ahhh you just can't let it go.
How many scabs have you picked?????
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| Quote Steve Ella's Beard="Steve Ella's Beard"Mike Gregory was a dearly loved man not only in this town, but in Rugby League in general by friends and foes alike, who tragically lost his life.'" i dont doubt that.
Quote Steve Ella's BeardI'll accept your apology, and believe you that it wasn't intended.'" I do appreciate that.
Quote Steve Ella's BeardI suspect if you'd said the same words in a pub in Wigan, you wouldn't be able to apologise.
This thread BADLY needs a lock.'"
i have no doubt people on here can be reasonable and as mature as you have been.
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| I can't believe there's 36 pages about some Leeds fans getting offended! Quite how much offence could be caused by Clarke's comments about McGuire I don't know. It seems to me it would be quite low on the list of most offensive comments, and I imagine McGuire was able to shrug it off without a care but some Leeds fans seem to be unable to do that. I don't think anything bad will happen to Danny McGuire, the Leeds club or anyone else because of the comments.
At the end of the day, nothing bad happens when you're offended. Who cares if you're offended? It's not going to cause you any harm. Five year olds would say 'sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt'. However, it appears rugby league fans aren't quite as mature!
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| Quote Donna="Donna"Ahhh you just can't let it go.
How many scabs have you picked?????'"
you do realise that your reaction is the same reaction that in Leeds fans that has been mocked by the Wigan fans?
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| Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"I can't believe there's 36 pages about some Leeds fans getting offended! Quite how much offence could be caused by Clarke's comments about McGuire I don't know. It seems to me it would be quite low on the list of most offensive comments, and I imagine McGuire was able to shrug it off without a care but some Leeds fans seem to be unable to do that. I don't think anything bad will happen to Danny McGuire, the Leeds club or anyone else because of the comments.
At the end of the day, nothing bad happens when you're offended. Who cares if you're offended? It's not going to cause you any harm. Five year olds would say 'sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt'. However, it appears rugby league fans aren't quite as mature!'" i dont believe that should be the case, where people are offensive they should be challenged on it.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"you do realise that your reaction is the same reaction that in Leeds fans that has been mocked by the Wigan fans?'"
Come again?
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| Quote Donna="Donna"Come again?'" your reaction to what i have said and how it would have been better left unsaid is the same reaction as Leeds fans have had to Phil Clarkes comments which has been mocked by Wigan fans, to the extent of proposing to wear Phil Clarke masks at the game on saturday (something i hope they are better than)
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| Quote SmokeTA="SmokeTA"he isnt the first player tobe injured, he isnt the first player to break the rules. What has happened to Mcguire has most likely happened to every player, they have at times broke the rules and at times been injured.
Your principle should be applicable to any and all persons. Not only Mcguire'"
You put what happened to Mike Greg into the McGuire context - seriously do you not see why that completely misses the point? Perhaps keeping them separate might have been a sensible thing to do - do you not think?
Quote SmokeTA="SmokeTA"no you didnt say anything about Clarke changing the context. W[uhat you did say was the context was changed in Clarkes full quote[/u compared to quote specifically about Mcguire. I am asking you what in the rest of the quote changed the context that was apparent in the smaller quote taken in isolation?'"
And I didn't say that either.
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"You could just say were wrong to use Mike Gregory's illness as a debating weapon?? I won't expect it, you're clearly not man enough.'" Im not sure why when you personally have shown such huge disrespect to other people (i.e Mcguire) you think that you should have some sacred cow that isnt even allowed to be mentioned. It is very hypocritical of you. But if you really are offended then I do apologise. It was never my intention to offend you Quote Cronus
Did you read the last line of my earlier post? "The plain, simple, obvious truth is no, he didn't deserve it, but he caused it." I'm never going to agree with you it was chance, but then I have a brain. I've never once said he deserved it. Very few have. But you just carry on with the verbal diarrhoea and emptying your box of kleenex.
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