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Quote: Father Ted "Odd with Lockers at 6.
The only reasons I can think of is that he played 6 at schools and amateur level. Though that is a very long time ago.
He must have trained well at 6 and MM doesn't want to lose Sam's threat from full back.
The key to me still is to play four props. He's going with four so we should more than match HKR forwards although Galea is always a threat.
Beat the HKR pack and the game is ours no matter who plays 6.'"


Lockers broke into the Wigan 1st team playing at 6, the last time we got to a Grand Final he was playing at 6, so he has more than enough experience playing there.

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I think O'Loughlin at 6 is not as bad as it is being made out. He has a very good cut-out passing game, allows us to play an extra forward with a bit more oomph (O'Loughlin for me is excellent at precise contact points in the tackle to not get dominated, but generally not as much impact as say Joel), which will hopefully mean we will not get dominated again.

On the other hand, O'Loughlin does not have the speed a decent 6 should have. The same can be said for Deacon, however Deacon more than makes up for it in organisation, kicking game, choices in passing. This may be recouped by the fact that O'Loughlin in attack could be just laying a platform for deep standoff/full back play for Sam, which as we know can work wonders in attack.

Sam can kick from fullback, it isn't impossible, just less choice meaning more pressure on him and Tommy near the end of each set. With Riddells distribution I think we would be OK if they position correctly, but I still don't trust McIlorum's deep distribution yet.

But for me the biggest loss by moving O'Loughlin to 6 is the loss of a pivot. All year we have more or less played with 4 pivots - O'Loughlin, Leuluai, Sam and either Deacon, Phelps or Roberts. Even if one had tried to make a break as opposed to passing (Sam icon_wink.gif ) we would always have a 3-deep attacking line, which is by far and away the best way to break a line in my view. By not having the 4th pivot and simply having 3 second rowers (a bit like Aus) we will have a different dynamic in attack, where individual brilliance may have to play more of a role than a good structured attacking line. Whether this works or not against Hull KR is yet to be seen, but I think this is the direction we may be taking in the next match...and I'm not sure we should be changing this dynamic this late in the season.

...or I could just be reading too far into it icon_wink.gif

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "The feeling's mutual when I see Saints line up with a 6 and 7 of Wilkin and Moore.
I'm sure it is! Moore did OK at the DW though
Hopefully we'll be back to Kyle and Lomax in a weeks time anyway, but it's nice to have him around the place just in case icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: FearTheVee "I'm sure it is! Moore did OK at the DW though
No comment.
I hear there waiting for the paper mache to dry and then Kyle and Lomax will be ready for another 20 minute game. icon_wink.gif

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let's wait and see eh. IMO I would move Sam back to 6 and put Amos on the wing , lets face it if he not 100% you would rather have Pat at 1 to deal with Dobsons kicking threat although both wings will have to be on their toes too . lets just hope it will be alright on the night and lets face it I would like to think Madge knows what he is doing , he has been watching the 20's games and I am sure he has done what he thinks is right so who are we to argue .

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For me Roberts should be playing with Sam at 6. Pat defending at 1 with Roberts at 1 in attack and if he seems confident keep him there in defence aswell so he can bring the ball back from kicks.

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