does no one else think that maybe the reason he pulled carmont back was because he felt his knee go and instinctively grabbed the nearest thing to try stop himself putting weight on it?

Glad to hear most Wigan fans not being glad an opponent got hurt. I'd like to think Leeds fans are targeting some of the individual comments rather than Wigan fans as a whole. One thing's for sure - had the roles been reversed and it had been Tomkins at Headingley, you would have sadly seen a few Leeds fans revelling in an injury on these boards.

It seems to me that every club has a fair few idiots who delight in talking about 'hating' players (see the numerous ridiculous threads about Ryan Bailey as an example but there are sadly many others) and hoping to see them get beaten up/injured on the field. Its about time all that sort of talk was cooled off IMO. I especially have no time for the 'I never hope to see anyone get injured BUT....' brigade.

Anyway, its unfortunate that this incident has thrown the spotlight on Wigan fans specifically - as ever there are plenty of people happy to tar you all with the same brush. Well done those Wigan fans speaking sense, and also well done to those who have apologised for comments they regretted - unlike some people I can accept that sometimes the heat of the moment isn't the best time to log on to these boards, and apologising even in print isn't easy sometimes.

Me.

So when sam tomkins cheats again next week(which has happened on numerous occasions this year) by clamping the defenders arm under his body to gain a penalty ,and then gets all his ratfaced teeth knocked out as a result ,that would be justice would it??

And this. Move on.