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| i like mickey mac for his committment, but tonight showed he hasn't improved, some of his passes from play the ball where awful, to me finch will replace tommy at 7 next season, but tommy and mickey sharing the 9 shirt is going to cause us problems. we need a class hooker and another prop to replace prescott, he has had enough chances and hasn't progressed, once fielden and coley went off we struggled big time.
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| TBH I've never rated him and I dont see why everyone else thinks so high of him last night for me he played no different to how he usually does.
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| Quote riversideboy="riversideboy"tommy and mickey sharing the 9 shirt is going to cause us problems'"
Agree, and will take away much of what you have gained in the pack for 2011 IMO.
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"Agree, and will take away much of what you have gained in the pack for 2011 IMO.'"
Couldn't agree more.
To have a truly top class pack of forwards, you need a top No 9 directing them around the park.
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| FINCH SOS pull sum strings ian
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| Quote Guerrier="Guerrier"Couldn't agree more.
To have a truly top class pack of forwards, you need a top No 9 directing them around the park.'"
Perhaps given a season in the role, Tommy will be able to do that. To be fair to him, he hasn't consistently played 9 for Wigan. He's pretty over-rated though IMO, can't doubt his bravery or commitment but I think as a player he is limited.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"He's not been in the best form for a couple of months now and he needs to step it up pretty quickly. He had a shocker last night and his kicking was embarrasingly poor. He's a top player when he finds his form but he really needs to start taking these games by the scruff of the neck.
Another player who I believe hasn't been at his best for a little while is Sean O'Loughlin. I actually thought he had his best game for a while last night but he isn't on his early season form.
I don't think us having a weeks rest every other week has done us many favours tbh.'"
And yet he still makes the NZ squad ahead of Rangi Chase.  Hopefully he will go AWOL in 4 nations too.
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| I know Wigan are stil keen to replace Riddell if someone suitable becomes available.
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| Quote {Hogan}="{Hogan}"Once again in the big game i failed to see what impact TL has for us. Once Deacon left the pitch, so did our kicking game. TL put some absolute shockers in on the fifth tackle where the leeds wingers/full back didnt have to move to catch.
Im not saying he was the only one who played very poorly, Joel has the worst game of his season, but in a position such as Scrum Half we need to have him controlling and owning the game.'"
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| Tommy has got the quality but just doesnt seem to be able to do it consistantly. I cant see MM going into next season with Tommy and Micky sharing the hooker role, that would be naive imo.
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| I think your being a bit harsh on Tommy, Craig. I agree he went missing last night but I think it was difficult for him to control things when Deacon went off, we know Tommy isn't the player to lead us round the pitch, he never has done and never will do. That is why things were going nicely when Deacon was on the pitch as we was using set plays that they clearly had been working on, you only need to look at Sams 2nd try for the build up to that. I do agree though that he went missing, but had he of had Deacon still along side him who knows, all ifs and buts now but Tommy on his own can't be blamed as he was left to try and control things himself which we know he can't do.
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