if i make them out of tin foil, will they count?

They can't look any worse than the shield does lol

Might just be me but that shield looks a more handsome trophy in our hands.

How do they tie ribbons on a plate by the way?

So every team that won Italy's Serie A prior to about 2003 shouldn't count that on their honours list?

Yeah cos they're the same thing. Finishing top and being the champions and finishing top prior to a playoff to decide the champions.

I'll make it easier for you, Count the Latics ones!

See you in a minute when you get back!

Are we including non-league? If not its 4.

EDIT - although we did get a plate for promotion so id like to count that and the plate given to us by Arsenal for the last game at highbury and also the one from Chelsea. Add that to the time we came 7th and won the non-existant top of the league below the playoffs trophy that I just made up n you're laughing.

Guffaw!

I didn't include years we were given the championship for finishing top, just the years we were not given the championship for finishing top. That has happened 13 times. i.e. if the LLS had been awarded every year the championship wasn't decided by who finished top, we'd have won the LLS 13 times.

That's why i was saying if you include this years LLS in the total, include every time we have finished top when the title was decided by playoffs.

You can't count a season for finishing top where a trophy for it didn't exist.
It exists now, hence we won it!

If the RFL decided (for some strange reason) to present a trophy to the winners of the Good Friday Clashes against Stains and called it the 'Andy Platt Cup', if we won the match we would have won it one time. Not sixty summat times (guessing here) we have previously won the clash.

That's just daft, same rules apply.

This is what i was saying above. Up until about 2003 you were never given a trophy for winning Serie A in Italy, yet they count that on the honours list.
Its ok, we'll agree to disagree!