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| Quote Mark="Mark"Wire trophy count with Gleeson - 0
Wire trophy count without Gleeson - 2
Wigan trophy count with - 0 (for now)
Wigan trophy count without - 0
Facts speak for themselves. Although as somebody said previously both parties are happy.'"
But Wigan are top and Warrington are 3rd therefore logic suggests all our players are better than all your players 
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"Nope, but the fact that all three have three times (or more) the assists that Gleeson has is a decent indicator, especially given one of them has spent a lot of time on the wing.'"
The problem there is that doesn't take into account the teams plays, e.g. we throw a cut out pass to Goulding a LOT on that side that keeps Gleeson's assist numbers far lower than they would be.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"Lies, damn lies and statistics.
Gleeson has been integral to Wigan's success this season, not just in attack but also in defence, and I wouldn't take any of Wire's centres ahead of him.
But as I said before, neither I, nor the Wire lad, nor you, are in a position to appreciate the full performance of each other's players, so it's a pointless attempt at point-scoring, if such a thing is possible.'"
Attack definitely but I'm not so sure about defense, he's not the strongest defender IMO. I'd definitely take King and Atkins ahead of him, not too sure about Bridge.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"But as I said before, neither I, nor the Wire lad, nor you, are in a position to appreciate the full performance of each other's players, so it's a pointless attempt at point-scoring, if such a thing is possible.'"
No, but as fans we all have opinions, which is why this message board exists. I'm sure in your time you have decided player A is better than player B without having watched every game they play.
Why you think it's point scoring I have no idea, you get very defensive at the most minor discussions 
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"No, but as fans we all have opinions, which is why this message board exists. I'm sure in your time you have decided player A is better than player B without having watched every game they play.
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Not at all. 
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"Edited for accuracy. It's a small point, but I'm sure you wouldn't want to get a reputation for having a selective memory when it comes to facts that speak for themsleves.'"
If you wanna grasp at that then that's fair enough.
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| Quote bigtruck="bigtruck"But Wigan are top and Warrington are 3rd therefore logic suggests all our players are better than all your players
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if that is being serious it's the most stupid arguement ever!
riddell better than monas you are having a laugh.
the only players i would take from wigan are the 2 tomkins,richards,robertsand o'loughlin on that evidence i think wire and wigan are equally matched atm and shown by meetings in the league it's 1-1.
my team would be:
richards
roberts
king
atkins
riley
briers
tomkins
morley
monaghan
carvell
j.tomkins
westwood
o'loughlin
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clarke
solomona
fielden (can;t say higham is good enough or vanderson only half decent wigan forwards who can make metres)
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"Not at all.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher":lol:
Thanks. Glad the League Leader's Trophy is fair enough.
You may think it small potatoes, but you didn't manage to win it, did you.
PS: The manly response would have been to admit that you forgot about it.'"
Nobody really counts it now though, not as one of the major trophies. It's like finishing top of a qualifying group in the world cup/champions league. It's good for seeding but doesn't really matter as the only advantage it gives you is a choice in the eliminator. I didn't forget about it, just see it as insignificant and not a major trophy. Some Wigan fans were harping on the past few years that final placings don't matter as it was all about the playoffs and the grand final or was that just when you weren't finishing top? Whatever suits I suppose.When you win the grand final I'll be put in my place anyhow
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Challenge cup
world club challenge.
three that matter.
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| Quote Mark="Mark"Nobody really counts it now though, not as one of the major trophies. It's like finishing top of a qualifying group in the world cup/champions league. It's good for seeding but doesn't really matter as the only advantage it gives you is a choice in the eliminator. I didn't forget about it, just see it as insignificant and not a major trophy. Some Wigan fans were harping on the past few years that final placings don't matter as it was all about the playoffs and the grand final or was that just when you weren't finishing top? Whatever suits I suppose.When you win the grand final I'll be put in my place anyhow
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Challenge cup
world club challenge.
three that matter.'"
Maybe, but for us the hubcap represents a massive change in the club after numerous years of inconcistency and disappointment. That's why we're so happy about it, and for that reason alone, we consider it a major trophy.
Not only that, but we've done it with the same squad that produced said inconsistent performances, and therefore (even looking past this years playoffs) everyone is excited because of the higher quality players we are bringing in to supplement the team, just think about what we can do when MM has his own squad and players.
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