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| Quote Wandering Warrior="Wandering Warrior"Goulding has been dropped this season already for poor defence.
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Do you mean after filling in at centre for one game because of Carmont being injured? Carmont was fit again the following week and was always going to get his place back. Has Goulding not played in every game since then and become one of the first choice wingers?
Even if what you are saying was the reason, which I dont know if it was or not, other than Carmont just getting his place back then it merely backs up what I am saying as it is fair to assume that he would be dropped again if he was at fault like some are trying to claim. The fact that he hasnt, has instead played the bulk of the season and has established himself as one of the first choice wingers speaks volumes.
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| Quote cherrydevil="cherrydevil"It doesnt seem that way on the games I have seen. It seems like he was badly outnumbered and wasnt at fault anywhere near as much as you are trying to make out, unless of course you think that Pryce will always stop overlaps. If Goulding was as bad as you are trying to make out then he would have been dropped by now. Wasnt Ainscough dropped after one game for these reasons? Havent other Wigan players been dropped because of poor defence? Seeing as he hasnt I guess your coach disagrees with you and your view of what has happened. I have to say though you do seem a little biased in all of this and seem to be seeing just what you want to see. Pryce wouldnt be one of your favourite players by any chance
Again you seem to totally misuse statistics to try and back up what you say. Most teams always attack far more down the left than the right and this has always been the case, I am sure that Wigan do and this has been shown in Pryce's tries. =#FF4000This is simply because most players are more comfortable passing that way and as a result a teams better centre and winger tend to be on this left side. As a result a right sided centre/wing partnership has to face much more. Is a side that lets in 3 tries in 20 attacks really worse than one which lets in 1 in 4? Also hasnt Marsh made his debut on that side and played in a couple of games and so was he being targeting, which is quite sensible thing to do? Wasnt Tomkins (a right sided second row) sin binned agaisnt Huddersfield which left that side exposed for tries? It is no where near as simple as you are trying to make out. I dont really see why you are trying to knock other Wigan players as a means of justifying Pryce. If his play was as good as you are trying to make out then there would be no need.'"
The top RL try scoring wingers Brian Bevan, Billy Boston, Tom van Vollenhoven were all right wingers.
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| Good luck tomorrow, yes, that is a Saints fan saying good look to Wigan
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| Quote OoOGazOoO="OoOGazOoO"Good luck tomorrow, yes, that is a Saints fan saying good look to Wigan

Hope you beat the Rhinos.'"
I know the last 3 years hurt you Gaz! but I never realised how much!
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| Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"No arguments on Pryce's good performances but what tries specifically has Goulding been caught out of position?
The first try against Huddersfield certainly, but most of the other tries were just working the numbers. Leuluai has been targeted defensively for the last 3 games, Marsh was poor against Huddersfield (but inexperienced) and Gleeson was poor against Crusaders. I can't see how Goulding gets the blame. Only one try was actually scored on his wing against Crusaders but the poor defence of Gleeson and Leuluai is hardly mentioned.'"
Stop talking sense, it doesnt seem to fit in on here. I wondered this myself seeing the Crusaders highlights when Gleeson made by far the biggest howler of all and doesnt even get mentioned. Goulding wasnt at fault for any but he still gets the blame by some. I suppose though that people cant make out Pryce to be fantastic by criticising these other players, it is much easier to slag off players that play in the same position and to try and blame them for everything instead.
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| Quote cherrydevil="cherrydevil"Stop talking sense, it doesnt seem to fit in on here. I wondered this myself seeing the Crusaders highlights when Gleeson made by far the biggest howler of all and doesnt even get mentioned. Goulding wasnt at fault for any but he still gets the blame by some. I suppose though that people cant make out Pryce to be fantastic by criticising these other players, it is much easier to slag off players that play in the same position and to try and blame them for everything instead.'"
Why are you so bothered? Your not even a Wigan fan are you? At the end of the day some people on here would pick Pryce over Goulding, I dont see why you have such a big problem with that? If Maguire picks Pryce over Goulding on Saturday are you going to be ok? 
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| Quote cherrydevil="cherrydevil"Do you mean after filling in at centre for one game because of Carmont being injured? Carmont was fit again the following week and was always going to get his place back. Has Goulding not played in every game since then and become one of the first choice wingers?
Even if what you are saying was the reason, which I dont know if it was or not, other than Carmont just getting his place back then it merely backs up what I am saying as it is fair to assume that he would be dropped again if he was at fault like some are trying to claim. The fact that he hasnt, has instead played the bulk of the season and has established himself as one of the first choice wingers speaks volumes.'"
Thats the game Hull fc at home. Carmont wasnt always going to get his place back. Nobody in our team this season gets automatically picked unless they deserve it. Goulding scored 2 tries but got dropped for Castleford the week after due to poor defence.
He isnt a first choice winger either, he wouldnt of played as many games there if Roberts and Phelps werent injured for quite a few weeks between them.
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| Quote cherrydevil="cherrydevil"Stop talking sense, it doesnt seem to fit in on here. I wondered this myself seeing the Crusaders highlights when Gleeson made by far the biggest howler of all and doesnt even get mentioned. Goulding wasnt at fault for any but he still gets the blame by some. I suppose though that people cant make out Pryce to be fantastic by criticising these other players, it is much easier to slag off players that play in the same position and to try and blame them for everything instead.'"
Nobody is blaming Goulding for anything. People are just comparing Pryce to Goulding as one of them will be dropped to fit Roberts back in. Pryce in defence has been better than Goulding and thats a fact your just going to have to accept. People are comparing players that play in similar positions because its relevant or shall we compare Sam to Fielden instead? 
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| Quote sgtwilko="sgtwilko"I know the last 3 years hurt you Gaz! but I never realised how much!'"
Too much!
The feeling i got from OT last year was just the lowest of the lows mate.
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| cherrydevil, As a Salford fan, how are you comparing the performances of Goulding and Pryce?
Surely not just from the snippets you have seen on boots 'n' all. The only game that has been on t.v. was v Huddersfield at Murrayfileld.
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| Quote Mother Feka="Mother Feka"Why are you so bothered? Your not even a Wigan fan are you? At the end of the day some people on here would pick Pryce over Goulding, I dont see why you have such a big problem with that? If Maguire picks Pryce over Goulding on Saturday are you going to be ok?
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I am just amazed at how fickle some Wigan fans are because a player has scored 8 walk in tries and only played 4 games. I also thought that Wigan fans were a lot more knowledgeable about the game than some seem to be on here. It was jonh who started going on about Ainscough and Goulding to somehow defend Pryce, I was just intrigued by the childlike reasons that he gave and general lack of understanding about the game.
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